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Postby jbone » Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:56 pm

The thing is, the con had the chance to have the contest done more effectively - I'd been actively speaking with the first person in charge of AMV-related matters, before he left for Japan... and whoever took over after him never once contacted me.

I'd even been talking with Vlad about how to handle the technical aspcts, so that everything could have run smoothly...

The con simply didn't bother to accept the help which was offered.
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:20 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Honestly, though...

If the people running the contest ONLY know how to deal with VHS, let them do it. I'd rather see a mediocre contest with videos that look EXACTLY as the creators intended them to look, than later hear about how the coordinators didn't have a clue what they were doing with all the digital entries and totally FuX0rZeD them all up.

That's why I offered to do AnimeNext's contest this year. I saw that it was done with VHS-only last year, and decided that since I knew what I was doing, I'd extend my knowledge to them in order to help out. This was their second year, right after a VHS-only year.

Things will change... let the con get on its feet ^^;;


Hey, I understand what your saying, and if that is the only option then yes I agree it's better relying on technical aspects that everyone is familiar with. But on the other hand, it does not mean however that it's the only way to go and my question basically here "is there any considerations given to other formats or get help on that?" the reason being that not too many people have access anymore to VHS.... If you can't get entries as a result, that will effect how the contest goes as well. I'm all for seeing well run AMV contests!

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Postby animeamiee » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:39 pm

As I said, anyone with any ideas for us to expand our AMV contest I'm more than willling to take them into consideration ^_^

We've got a lot of work to do, and only so many people to do it, and our numbers seem to be getting smaller and smaller.

I'd love to be able to take digital entries! and if anyone has an idea for how to do it, in a relativly orginized manner, please pass them along to me!

Again one of my concerns is keeping the videos as they were sent to us, I still have horrible visions from ACen with one of my vids getting cropped in such a way the effects I had done were completely lost for different parts.

Again, this is not set in stone, as we have not recieved any entries nor have we recieved any specific e-mails asking about the AMV contest.
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Postby SQ » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:54 pm

jbone wrote:The thing is, the con had the chance to have the contest done more effectively - I'd been actively speaking with the first person in charge of AMV-related matters, before he left for Japan... and whoever took over after him never once contacted me.

I'd even been talking with Vlad about how to handle the technical aspcts, so that everything could have run smoothly...

The con simply didn't bother to accept the help which was offered.


In short, you need to contact jbone, animeamiee.
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Postby animeamiee » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:20 pm

well, you see, I WAS going to, and for whatever reason, I was just given his contact info LAST NIGHT!

But because of the stink he's causing here AND at the Anime Detour Forums, I've decided not to. I have no desires to deal with someone who thinks his ideas are better, just because they're his and decides to start all this drama over something that is really a simple matter to straighten out.

Phade and I will be heading the AMV contest, we will work together as much as we can to make it as succesful as possible, and in such a way to get as many people involved as we can ^_^

as soon as we think of a good way to do it, we will post it on the website and let everyone know!
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Postby Castor Troy » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:24 pm

animeamiee wrote:well, you see, I WAS going to, and for whatever reason, I was just given his contact info LAST NIGHT!

But because of the stink he's causing here AND at the Anime Detour Forums, I've decided not to. I have no desires to deal with someone who thinks his ideas are better, just because they're his and decides to start all this drama over something that is really a simple matter to straighten out.

Phade and I will be heading the AMV contest, we will work together as much as we can to make it as succesful as possible, and in such a way to get as many people involved as we can ^_^

as soon as we think of a good way to do it, we will post it on the website and let everyone know!


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Postby jbone » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:45 pm

animeamiee wrote:well, you see, I WAS going to, and for whatever reason, I was just given his contact info LAST NIGHT!

But because of the stink he's causing here AND at the Anime Detour Forums, I've decided not to. I have no desires to deal with someone who thinks his ideas are better, just because they're his and decides to start all this drama over something that is really a simple matter to straighten out.


My ideas were better, which is why I offered to bring them to fruition. Just because I complained when I discovered how poorly-implemented things were announced to be doesn't mean I'm suddenly wrong.

The fact that I no longer care to help is beside the point.

And I've been an administrator of the AnimeDetour forum ever since _I_ figured out how to implement it, so please don't tell me you had no way of contacting me.

My intention was not to "start drama," it was to voice a complaint and to provide criticism where none had been presented. I did not consider it an attack on anyone. If you chose to believe I was directly attacking anyone and that I had intended to cause drama, that is not my problem.
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Postby animeamiee » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:53 pm

How can you say it wasn't an attack and you weren't trying to start drama when you have said NOTHING positive, OR offered any help!

the first thing you said was a bash on the new website! WHY because it wasn't yours and YOU didn't like it.

Until you came out swinging with that, I was actualy going to send you an e-mail and see what WE could come up with, but as I said I have no desire to deal with you on a one on one basis.

As for why I hadn't contacted you before, I had no idea that you had done the website AND were planning something for the AMV contest until last night. If I don't have the information at my disposal, I can't use it. I hadn't even been aware there had been anyone working on the AMV contest.

None of this was done to spite you, it was all done because it HAD to be done, and that's all there is to it.
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:56 pm

animeamiee wrote:well, you see, I WAS going to, and for whatever reason, I was just given his contact info LAST NIGHT!

But because of the stink he's causing here AND at the Anime Detour Forums, I've decided not to. I have no desires to deal with someone who thinks his ideas are better, just because they're his and decides to start all this drama over something that is really a simple matter to straighten out.

Phade and I will be heading the AMV contest, we will work together as much as we can to make it as succesful as possible, and in such a way to get as many people involved as we can ^_^

as soon as we think of a good way to do it, we will post it on the website and let everyone know!


Well, good luck to ya! maybe with Phade's help you might be able to expand into DVD or Mpeg2 submissions. They're not as bad asd they sound to handle provided care is taken to ensure proper encodings are sent! I guess the reason I commented on it before is so that you have as many options as possible to make it a great AMV contests! I know how tough that can be since there are so many now and it's hard just to get enough submissions sent in! Shame I live so far away from all the action!

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Postby animeamiee » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:03 pm

Thanks Vlad for your support!

we DO want every aspect of the con to be a success, and because I am an AMV creator, and a big fan of AMV's I have a big interest in the AMV contest and how it's run, which is why I stepped in and took over the operation.
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Postby jbone » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:08 pm

animeamiee wrote:How can you say it wasn't an attack and you weren't trying to start drama when you have said NOTHING positive, OR offered any help!

the first thing you said was a bash on the new website! WHY because it wasn't yours and YOU didn't like it.

Until you came out swinging with that, I was actualy going to send you an e-mail and see what WE could come up with, but as I said I have no desire to deal with you on a one on one basis.

As for why I hadn't contacted you before, I had no idea that you had done the website AND were planning something for the AMV contest until last night. If I don't have the information at my disposal, I can't use it. I hadn't even been aware there had been anyone working on the AMV contest.

None of this was done to spite you, it was all done because it HAD to be done, and that's all there is to it.


Not because it's not mine, because it's BAD. There's a distinct difference.

Criticism isn't always a bad thing, you should learn to accept it and use it to improve yourself.

And I'm sorry if anything I said was interpreted to be directed at you, as it wasn't intended in that way. It was directed toward the convention, and not at any individual. Many people other than you could have contacted me.

At the same time, nothing HAD to be done in the way that it was done - poeple knew I existed and wanted to help, but were ineffective in communicating with me.

Alas, horse, stick. I'm tired of typing about this.
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Postby Rozard » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:02 pm

The site does look pretty simplistic :?

Not that I could do better :uhoh:
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Postby animeamiee » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:11 am

it's no more simplistic than it was before, and why does it have to be flashy to make it a good website?
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Postby jbone » Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:09 am

animeamiee wrote:it's no more simplistic than it was before, and why does it have to be flashy to make it a good website?


You're missing the point.

It's not bad because it's not flashy - it's bad because it's poorly laid-out and has an unituitive interface, and the graphical elements are unattadtive.
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Postby animeamiee » Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:07 pm

OH! I have an idea Jbone, since all of this just pisses you off so much, why don't you just ignore this thread, and stop putting your comments in here!
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