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Postby Kusoyaro » Wed Aug 14, 2002 6:52 pm

MAS PRODUCTIONS wrote:I personally don't think its that big of a deal.

It's not a matter of degree. It's a matter of courtesy.
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Postby Machine » Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:59 pm

Ok Obviosuly, this is getting way out of hand so I'm going to end it right here and now!


1. MTT was in the Akon doc in the segement "Meanwhile at Jacon"

2. Rozard had told me not to put them in the doc BUT I ignored his message (hence Rozard is not at fault)

3. RVP and Hypoedermic (my co-hosts) had no idea about this so they should not be held responsible either.

4. Did I ignore the request? YES!

5. Did I put them in the Doc? YES!

6. MTT was only put in this doc for laughs and was not meant to harm anyone! Jokes may not be tasteful to some!

7. I had no intention of making them look bad. It was all for fun. But I did not respect their request and thus is has gone on.

I admit I did not respect there wishes and I did put them in the documentary even though I was told that they did not want to be in it, so I apologize for that.


However, I am unable to remove them from the Doc. I have spoken to...I believe it was Zabet about this...


So if you want to take out your anger take it out on me and not on anyone else who has tried to defend in this situation.

DO NOT be angry at Akuma, members of RVP or Hypeodermic since it was soley up to myself and myself alone to do this.


So I've had enough of this. Let bygons be bygons
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Aug 14, 2002 9:23 pm

I do have to agree with what MTT and Kusoyaro about what respecting people who don't want to be taped or part of something. I don't see a problem with being taped for the Documentary, but not is it is then requested not to be on it.

I also agree with Kusoyaro about the comments made by §_Akuma_§. I find them to be on the border of insluting and really wonder how he would react if someone did something against his wishes.

I like the Documentary and think what was taped and shown to be pretty much OK since most idividuals did everything in the eye of the camera willingly. I think of you do tape someone who does request not to have part of a whole segment of themselves, then It should be respected. This again could also get into legal issues if someone is really pissed off.


I do have to agree that the comment about suicide is a bit touchy with lots of people.

Basically, I love what Machine & Crew do and I just wouldn't want to see something spoil that...

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Postby Super Sapien » Wed Aug 14, 2002 9:36 pm

Beside the fact that they didn't want to be in the doc and were put in anyway, what's probably most important and most overlooked is the suicide issue. There's no such thing as a tasteful joke based on an attempted suicide. On top of that, I'm sure MOST of the people here don't visit the MTT forums regularly, and thus would not get that joke anyway.
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Postby Adiamante » Wed Aug 14, 2002 10:16 pm

Hey guys I believe that this problem has been taken care of about as well as its gonna be taken care of.

I would like to add my apologies to MTT that I wish this had never happened and I hope we can go from here.

For those of you that have other opinions on the matter. I believe we have heard all points of view and I would appreciate it very much if we can keep those opinions to themselves on this matter. At least in this topic. If you have something to say please contact us on aim. I would be more then happy to talk with you about this and I'm sure others would too.

NOW! back on to the doc! Did anyone like the Convention Girls Gone Wild Comments :) :D
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Postby klinky » Wed Aug 14, 2002 10:55 pm

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You know I liked one of your Lain videos, but the way you guys handle yourself.... :roll:


Public forum, private matter. I can understand the privacy bit, but lets bring it up on a public forum, lets not write a e-mail about it, let's not talk in private to Machine about it. Let's show how pissy we are to the whole AMV community.

By saying "Oh Machine I did NOT want to be in the docu!!" is basically making people(fans even!) wonder why are they being such asses about a FUN, INDEPENTENT, look at con life. I would like to know the exact reason, you don't have to provide one since you have the right to hide it.

Plus most people here are fans of the docu so you're going to get backlash.

I am THRILLED to be mentioned in the docu, even though it's because of my freaky obession with Misato. Just some people... :roll:

Anyways, you lost a fan. :p


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Postby klinky » Wed Aug 14, 2002 10:56 pm

Adiamante>> oh yeah.. hehe...

I don't know everyone wants to get their two cents in now...

probably have to start a new thread "The thread about the con, not about MTT being wussies about the docu..."


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Postby Machine » Wed Aug 14, 2002 10:58 pm

Adiamante wrote:NOW! back on to the doc! Did anyone like the Convention Girls Gone Wild Comments :) :D



That's nothing! How about when MJ sent those 2 chicks to kiss me!
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Postby Adiamante » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:15 pm

And one time! At Akon! I walked into the bathroom, and uh..........nevermind
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Postby Rozard » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:32 pm

I was at work, and unable to post here this afternoon. I just want to comment on all of this.

First off, even though it's been stated I'm not any part of this, I believe I am. After all, it was my footage, hence MTT being in the documentary was my fault. I told Akimbo that they wouldn't be in any docs, so what I should have done was gone back and recorded over what I had already taped. That alone would have prevented this. Or I could have had Carlos contact Akimbo to talk about any ideas he had about MTT in the doc.

Moving on, I want to quickly address the comments made here. I agree completely with what Hsien said about Akuma. Just because you don't see any importance in what has gone on doesn't mean it's not there. And kilnky, you're entitled to your own opinion, but I definantly don't agree with it.

Jon, Carlos and I have talked, and we never intended anything bad to result of it. I again extend my apology to Akimbo and the rest of MTT. I hope that there is no ill will between anyone, and that we can move on wish this thread.

That being said, those three girls at the J-Pop dance remind be of one of my friend's ex-s on crack, times 30 :shock:
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Postby §_Akuma_§ » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:32 pm

oh god Adiamante! NO ONE needed to hear that. it was bad enough seeing carlos almost getting raped by those 2 ugly, fat chicks!!!! *shudders*
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:50 pm

I agree, lets move on. I'm just a bit disgusted with a few posts here about the whole thing and they aren't from Machine and Crew either. Maybe it's those people who should grow up at bit since it those comments that are rocking the boat here and making the situation worse and keep bringing attention to it as well...

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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:54 pm

klinky wrote:Image


You know I liked one of your Lain videos, but the way you guys handle yourself.... :roll:


I personally have met MTT and think they're a pretty good bunch. I feet your picture is extreamly out of line and is a direct insult to fellow AMV creators here. I don't think this kind of message has any place here and it has really ruined anything else I wantd to mention here... I hope that people following this thread don't assume were are all like this because most of us aren't....

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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:57 pm

I'm sorry about me above post re-posting that inaproriate image in the quote. I appologize for having it in this thread twice...

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Postby Zabet » Thu Aug 15, 2002 12:21 am

klinky wrote:
Public forum, private matter. I can understand the privacy bit, but lets bring it up on a public forum, lets not write a e-mail about it, let's not talk in private to Machine about it. Let's show how pissy we are to the whole AMV community.

~klinky


We did take it up privately through AIM as well.
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