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Postby Icarus » Sun Mar 02, 2003 11:18 pm

to take part in the music video competitions? Just curious here. Because I have neither the time nor the means to get to any anime conventions but I would love to showcase or AMVs or participate in competitions. Thanks in advance for any feedback! :wink:
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Postby iserlohn » Sun Mar 02, 2003 11:54 pm

No, but it's kind of unfair if you win an award and you're not present.

Best bet is to send your video tagged as non-competing. Then it gets shown but you're not up for a prize that someone in attendance could win.
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Postby TaranT » Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:27 am

The contest rules will usually say one way or the other. Each contest has its own character (e.g. provincial or cosmopolitan) and requiring prize winners to be present or not is one way they set that character.

Personally, I think it's cool that entries from Britain and Croatia won at last year's AWA. (This year's Anime Boston has an entry from Hungary.) And I wouldn't expect someone to fly halfway around the planet just to pick up a prize...unless it's AbsoluteDestiny :).

Contests should be about the videos - wherever they come from - and not so much about the persons behind them. That's just an opinion, of course :roll:.
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Postby anneke » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:36 am

I usually go by that the big contests: AWA, Otakon, Anime Expo. It's okay to enter if your not attending. Smaller contests, leave to the local creators who will be spending the money to attend. If you live out of the country where they have no AMV contests, for a small convention ask the coordinators if you may enter. (This is because if you win, and they need to send you prizes they were atleast warned ahead of time.)

Personally I'm getting sick of people who send their videos to every convention under the sun. When there were not as many videos and not as many contests that would have been fine, but the AMV world has expanded beyond that.

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Postby WilLoW :--) » Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:10 am

TaranT wrote:

Personally, I think it's cool that entries from Britain and Croatia won at last year's AWA.


you forgot France :oops: :cry:
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Postby dwchang » Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:34 pm

I usually go by that the big contests: AWA, Otakon, Anime Expo. It's okay to enter if your not attending. Smaller contests, leave to the local creators who will be spending the money to attend. If you live out of the country where they have no AMV contests, for a small convention ask the coordinators if you may enter. (This is because if you win, and they need to send you prizes they were atleast warned ahead of time.)

Personally I'm getting sick of people who send their videos to every convention under the sun. When there were not as many videos and not as many contests that would have been fine, but the AMV world has expanded beyond that.


(nod nod) I've seen countless videos on the ORG that have like 10+ contests listed under their competitions. Now, I guess it is possible that they attended all those conventions, but probably not. Although it is their perogative what contests they compete in, but I personally prefer to compete in contests I attend out of a respect-thing.

I agree with you on the small conventions and the local creators. It would be unfortunate for someone who is attending to not be able to see their video because someone, who is 1,000 miles away, has their video shown. Also smaller conventions usually have shorter contests and hence the chances of being shown dwindle even more.

I guess we're just seeing that people like to win contests (which is acceptable and predictable). Also from a mathematical standpoint, the more contests you enter, the better your chances (shrug).

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Postby AtomicWeezleman » Mon Mar 03, 2003 2:56 pm

Ok, perhaps this isn't really relevant to the conversation, but are there any amv competitions in the U.K??

I live in the north so we get little news but from the few wandering minstrels that are seen from time to time..
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Postby jbone » Mon Mar 03, 2003 3:19 pm

WilLoW :--) wrote:you forgot France :oops: :cry:

Nobody "forgets" France.

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Postby anneke » Mon Mar 03, 2003 4:41 pm

dwchang,

It's nice to see someone who aggrees with me. That's why when I ran an AMV contest I had a question about if the person was attending the convention or not. If they were attending would atleast try and show there video as an exhibition video.

If the person is supporting the convention, the convention should support them in return.

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Postby dwchang » Mon Mar 03, 2003 4:49 pm

It's nice to see someone who aggrees with me. That's why when I ran an AMV contest I had a question about if the person was attending the convention or not. If they were attending would atleast try and show there video as an exhibition video.

If the person is supporting the convention, the convention should support them in return.


Yeah exactly, I'm sure it happens at every convention where someone submits, attends and doesn't get to see their video. It would be quite unfortunate to have paid for the convention (in hopes of seeing your work) and not see it.

I guess it just has to do with winning. Let me first off say that there's nothing wrong with that of course, but it just seems like a lot of creators (IMHO) are a little too concerned with winning and send to a lot of cons. Like I said, the mathematics are on your side and your bound to win.

However, I for one would like to be at the convention especially to see the nice reaction and accept the honor, but that's just me. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with winning, but I for one wouldn't like to bump some local creator off the list.

Also, if I submitted to like 10 cons and won 1, I don't think that's as meaningful to me. It's sheer statistics and I'm sure one con is gonna like it. It feels a lot better to submit to a few cons and win those...well from a statistics standpoint anyway. But then again this is coming from a loser in terms of contests haha :-P

Live and let live though I guess.

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Postby anneke » Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:30 pm

I'm one of those people who went all the way to a convention to see my video shown, only to have it not shown. :( I even had flown across the country for the convention, and they didn't even show it as exhibition. (after promising me they would atleast do that). I was PISSED. They want to make consulation to me of Free Admission the next year, but no way was I going to spend the money required to fly out there again.

Now mine was more due to technical problems. But I know how someone would feel. Then people really don't give a care about other creators, and seem to care more and more only about themselves. <sigh>

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Postby TaranT » Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:30 pm

WilLoW :--) wrote:
TaranT wrote:Personally, I think it's cool that entries from Britain and Croatia won at last year's AWA.

you forgot France :oops: :cry:


Oops....It's not that I forgot; I really didn't know. But I see from the contest lists that you got the Drama award in the Expo. Congrats!

I suppose I could have mentioned Canada and Texas, too. :roll:
As for other winners: ShonenDizzyCow is in southeast Asia; Turboneko is or used to be in Italy.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:38 pm

AtomicWeezleman wrote:Ok, perhaps this isn't really relevant to the conversation, but are there any amv competitions in the U.K??


Yes there are - Ayacon had a contest a few months back which I won (jointly).

I'm guessing there will be more contests in the future.

The best place for UK news is (and always has been) uk.media.animation.anime on usenet.
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Postby dwchang » Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:56 pm

Then people really don't give a care about other creators, and seem to care more and more only about themselves. <sigh>


Well, I really wouldn't say that. I mean there's nothing wrong with wanting to win. I guess people just have different degrees of "courtesy" that they would like to receive and at the same time offer (btw that is by NO means a slam on anyone else). (shrug)

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Postby Corran » Wed Mar 05, 2003 12:38 am

Ok... here's my position. I so want to go to some conventions this year but on the 25th of March I'll be leaving for boot camp and after that I'll be in tech school for at least an addition 5 months. I would like to enter a video I'm working on but physically showing up would be impossible for me. After all my work do you guys find it unfair for me to do something like this?
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