The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Silk_SK » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:56 pm

Okay, it's been a week. I'm officially allowed to ask what's up. :?
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Kristyrat » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:12 pm

Brad hasn't mentioned it, but Ricardo and I have our match scheduled. Don't know about the others.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Silk_SK » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:50 pm

I wonder if Brad has considered making the new song choice system optional. School has started up again and scheduling simultaneous matches is even more difficult than it was before.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Radical_Yue » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:48 pm

If we didn't have to edit at the same time, I would've been done weeks ago. :P
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby lloyd9988 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:08 am

Radical_Yue wrote:If we didn't have to edit at the same time, I would've been done weeks ago. :P


To be honest, I kinda like the suspense especially since Yue is up against DN@. But, at the same time, I want to see the finals as soon as possible! >.<

So, can you guys explain why you have to edit at the same time?? I'm still a bit lost as to the reason why they must edit at the exact same time instead of just timing the editors individually.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Silk_SK » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:15 am

It's the song selection process. They are given three songs and they rank them from best to worst. Whichever song gets the combined highest ranking is the one they use. They have to do this at the same time, otherwise one of them will know what they song may possibly be using ahead of time as well as the source they are going to use.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Radical_Yue » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:54 am

I'm honestly thinking about just forfeiting at this point :P

Even after the match is scheduled we'll both be editing either balls early (I'm NOT a morning person) or super late at night. Fighting to wake up or stay awake and trying to edit doesn't sound like a fun time to me. :( And there's no reason to keep going if it's not any fun.

I'd rather go out of my own accord than with a mega-halfassed mess of a video.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Brad » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:16 pm

Mkay, well, I'm highly considering just changing up the rules at this point. Kinda lame for Silk and Starsy's match, but if it's causing this much pain, I don't have much choice. I guess I just didn't think it'd be that big of an issue. In the previous tournaments, almost EVERY match was done simultaneously. I don't know if it was just a matter of them having overall fewer international editors or what, but I figured doing it like this wouldn't be such a hassle.

I realize I've been a pretty shitty coordinator over the past couple months (time, busy, excuses, etc.) and I want to get this thing done. I've got a 2TB hard drive waiting for ze winner :O So yeah, for the rest of the matches, unless somebody strongly disagrees, I will just be rolling for the song.

So whenever you know you have some free time to edit, send me a PM and lets get this thing rolling.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Brad » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:31 pm

Okay, need some opinions here.

Magnus (ZetZu) messaged me a few days ago wondering if he'd be able to re-enter the tournament (if you don't remember, he decided to drop out at the end of round 3 due to some pretty serious health issues). He's got more free time now and is feeling okay enough to edit, and since Josh (Mamo) hasn't edited his round 4 match yet, I figured it'd probably be ok. I talked to Josh about it and he was totally cool with the idea.

Then I realized that I had already posted the song for the match in the round 3 thread. Now, Magnus says that he swears he doesn't remember it and promises not to go looking for it. I personally trust him on that. However, this IS a contest with prizes involved, and I want to be fair to everybody. What do you guys think? Should I give him another chance, or chalk it up to unfortunate circumstances and move on with the tournament?

The other option is I could choose a totally new song. That'd clear Magnus completely, however, Josh already edited his round 3 video. Meaning, it'd be giving HIM a second chance at editing (for better or worse). I haven't posed this question to Josh but my guess would be he'd be fine with it, but again, I'll leave it up to you guys.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Infinity Squared » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:27 pm

Coming from a completely neutral point of view, in light of prizes being involved and the semi-serious nature of this contest, I would say that the better option would just be to move along. That's just what I would do from the chair of an AMV coordinator in a contest. Unfortunate as it is for Zetzu, I think the momentum of the contest has overtaken him now. And no, I'm not just saying this because I'm relying on Mamo to win this tournament to win the predictions (I didn't remember this little point until I actually started typing this).
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Silk_SK » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:29 pm

I figure Josh's opinion is the only one that matters since he's getting the rawest part of the deal. Either Magnus edits with a song he may possibly have heard beforehand or Josh edits a completely new IC. If Josh is okay with using the same song, then I don't see the problem. But, you should still ask him if he's sure he doesn't want to take his chances with a new song. It all depends on if he's confident with his current video. Personally, I think we can trust Magnus not to cheat. ICs are already based on a good deal of trust no matter how many safeguards we put up against cheating.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby AngelDragoon » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:48 pm

Awesome! I'm glad you figured out a new rule system for this round. I'll definitely get to scheduling a time to edit next week, but right now I'm in a ton of pain with a swollen face. (I'm hoping it's just really bad allergies on top of my top wisdom tooth cutting against my cheek, but I'll find out more tomorrow after a visit to the doctor's. :? )

Anyway, in my own opinion, I wouldn't have a problem with Magnus entering back into the tournament, especially since his opponent's okay with it. Either option regarding the song seems good, but a new song might make it seem more 'fair'. Don't get me wrong, I believe him when he says he doesn't know the song and won't go looking for it, but there would probably be less potential drama if a whole new match was coordinated. Granted, it will be more work for Josh, but again if he's okay with it then it's probably the better choice.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Prodigi » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:33 pm

As a judge I approve of the re-entry of Magnus. But as mentioned above I think in all fairness the only person who should have a real say on the matter would be Josh.
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby lloyd9988 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:25 am

Since I'm not a participant and I don't care either way, I guess my opinion is pretty neutral too. :D

Josh says he's cool with it and, thus, his opinion matters most since he holds the power of either to dispel the match or let Mangus have his chance. Now, since the issue at hand is the audio itself, Josh is probably the only one who can decide on whether to do a re-do or just stick with the video he has. In essence, Josh has the opportunity to stick with the video he made and take his chances on that video, or, if he doesn't like the video he made, he can just make a new IC video. So, its a pretty good bargaining chip for Josh in this tournament. So, I say, let Josh be the one to decide whether to make a new match or stick with his original video. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Online AMV Iron Chef Tournament v4.0 - ROUND FOUR!

Postby Mamo! » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:55 am

Brad wrote:Okay, need some opinions here.

Magnus (ZetZu) messaged me a few days ago wondering if he'd be able to re-enter the tournament (if you don't remember, he decided to drop out at the end of round 3 due to some pretty serious health issues). He's got more free time now and is feeling okay enough to edit, and since Josh (Mamo) hasn't edited his round 4 match yet, I figured it'd probably be ok. I talked to Josh about it and he was totally cool with the idea.

Then I realized that I had already posted the song for the match in the round 3 thread. Now, Magnus says that he swears he doesn't remember it and promises not to go looking for it. I personally trust him on that. However, this IS a contest with prizes involved, and I want to be fair to everybody. What do you guys think? Should I give him another chance, or chalk it up to unfortunate circumstances and move on with the tournament?

The other option is I could choose a totally new song. That'd clear Magnus completely, however, Josh already edited his round 3 video. Meaning, it'd be giving HIM a second chance at editing (for better or worse). I haven't posed this question to Josh but my guess would be he'd be fine with it, but again, I'll leave it up to you guys.

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Hehe like what I said when I bumped into you downtown yesterday, either is fine. I trust Magnus as well so a new song isn't necessarily needed. But if it comes to that, I'm down. Just let me know. :3
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