Silk_SK wrote:Okay watched it. I haven't seen Mirk's video but I can tell you an AMV needs more than just a coherent story. Frankly, it seemed like you straight up stopped editing after the first 30 seconds or so.
Kionon wrote:Silk_SK wrote:Okay watched it. I haven't seen Mirk's video but I can tell you an AMV needs more than just a coherent story. Frankly, it seemed like you straight up stopped editing after the first 30 seconds or so.
I wasn't in any way detracting from Phan's win. Just articulating feelings on the match. In both of my matches, I clearly thought my opponent had better technical editing than I did. I would counter that an AMV without story coherency, when it comes to a song like the one presented, is not much of an AMV at all, so it cuts both ways.
I'm going to presume you don't mean to come off as harsh as your phrasing implies to me, but it's clear (and this is why we have multiple judges), that you and I have very different ideas of what constitutes editing. You think the first thirty seconds are only edited because they comprise a very high level of beat synch, especially given the amount of lyric less intro. Yes, it is true that as I ran out of time, the technical side after about 1:14 or so became hard to maintain (I have a very specific approach to iron chefs, and one of those is that technical tweaks occur in the last thirty minutes), and it didn't pick up again until the end, but to say I stopped editing... Clearly you are not familiar with my style, especially my romance videos, and the style of the era that I'm from. Phan and I took different approaches to this song, given our sources, and I trust that the judges felt that Phan's execution of his own approach was better than my execution of my approach, and that they did not try to judge us both by one, equal standard. You pretty much explicitly state I had no execution after the first thirty seconds, and I think that is inaccurate and unfair, and says a lot about the generational gap that exists between us.
tl;dr No drama needed, just saying what I felt, Phan and I had different approaches, both were good, judges liked Phan's better, it's all cool.
Silk_SK wrote:Sorry if I offended you. But the way I see it, there's no point to making a music video if you edit like there's no music.
Nya-chan Production wrote:And I have to agree with judges and Silk - from my PoV it seems that yours (Kio) vid could've profited from shortening by some 1/3rd - the gazes are fine, but overally pretty long and on this short stage of some ~144s they feel a bit out of place. Not to mention that almost the whole time the scenes out of sync - not only to beats, but even to the sung voice. There was some lyrics sync, but it was just a minor addition.
Phan's video, OTOH, had not only tight sync, but for me most importantly, his cuts made me feel like there's something happening. I saw the feelings of those two, first the shock of the boy, then the determination of the girl. That's something your video lacked for me and why I consider Phan's video the better one. Your gazes and blushes were good as well, but I suppose they were worse timed or dosed. It just didn't work.
(Oh, also... it was more close for me because of Phan's horrible ending... in a horrible font D: Had he left it out, it would have been much better)
(And also, IMO, the "style of era one's from" doesn't have to do with anything - I have seen videos from "your era" that could beat Phan in a second - it's the execution of a style where it's in and this one didn't seem that good. Btw, I liked your source, might watch it ;x )
Silk_SK wrote:Ah, I'm sorry you misunderstood me when I said "stopped editing." Of course you were editing in the literal sense. I meant that it didn't seem like you were editing the scenes much beyond putting them down and letting them go for a while to eat up the timeline.
Kionon wrote:Bashar, the difference is significant. Period. I won't back down on that.Silk_SK wrote:Ah, I'm sorry you misunderstood me when I said "stopped editing." Of course you were editing in the literal sense. I meant that it didn't seem like you were editing the scenes much beyond putting them down and letting them go for a while to eat up the timeline.
I wasn't. My clips were where they were for reasons. I don't "eat up timeline." Not even in ICs. With ICs, you don't have unlimited time to go back and see if your choice of cuts always work as intended, but that isn't the same as not having had reasons for placing the clips where they are.
Silk_SK wrote:I didn't say that you didn't have a reason for putting the clips where they were. Just that you didn't do anything to them once they were placed.
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