purplepolecat wrote:Strictly speaking, a parody is a creative work that imitates certain aspects of a different creative work, for comedic effect. Not to be confused with satire, which is a more general term for a creative work designed to reveal (usually unflattering) aspects of a person, institution, abstract concept etc.
IMO, All Hell Lelouch is satire, not parody. It satirizes Lelouch by highlighting unflattering aspects of his personality. To parody Lelouch, you would have to create your own original Avatar character with Lelouch-like characteristics, and do something with that.
The South Park Movie (and its soundtrack) is a parody of Broadway musicals in general (new creative work which imitates a different creative work)? It is also a satire of American society and foreign policy. Does the fact that the source audio is a parody make the Avatar Music Video a parody? I don't know. The Exploder Evacuator source audio was parody.
Friend Request, Darkest of Places - funny yes, satire maybe, parody no.
Every Avatar Opening comes pretty close - it's blindingly obvious what it's parodying, and it gets the point across while making you laugh. The problem is that for parodies, it is unusual to actually use the source material that you are parodying. That's like trying to parody House, MD by putting together a montage of funny House, MD clips. The only true way to parody Avatar OPs would be to make one from scratch that contained recognizable elements of existing OPs. The Kujibiki Unbalance OP is a good example.
You can take this analysis with a grain of salt, because I obviously have a vested interest in discrediting all the videos but mine, bwah hah hah. For the record, I think all of the finalists in this category are fantastic and made me laugh my ass off.
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:I have but one question, Is the Southpark Movie soundtrack a parody of musicals? Or is it just a musical? I mean just because it's funny, or a different subject matter than say disney movies doesn't really mean it's a parody of it.
The question we must ask ourselves is,
Is this a contest that finds the best Avatar Music Video that is in and of itself a parody, or a contest to find the best Avatar Music Video that used audio that might be a parody
Oxford English Dictionary wrote: Pronunciation:/ˈparədi/
noun (plural parodies)
*an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect
:the film is a parody of the horror genre
EvaFan wrote:You know, that definition just enforces it more-so to me that his vid is a parody. More than likely the people in question have not seen the Avatar series. Lelouch is a total serious bsns drama queen. By using the audio from south park, C/F was able to exaggerate this to the point of it being humorous and making fun of lelouch's personality/character. It is a fact that this song would not work with just any Avatar character. Sad part is I'm guessing you haven't even watched the Avatar and said that.
CodeZTM wrote:Every Opening Ever Made is getting my vote in this category. When it comes down to it, Bonklers was the better PARODY, but I just don't feel like its the better video. It did a great job of mimicking De:Light, I just felt like there wasn't a whole package there. I really can't explain it. It's just how I feel it as a viewer. That's just my personal opinion as a viewer. EOEM was extremely well put together, and had fantastic elements to it and a great flow/feel.
Also, I'd agree that All Hell Lelouch is most definitely a parody, just not on the same level of "quality" as the other parodies when you compare them. All Hell Lelouch was a fantastic video. It's just not a fantastic PARODY video.
CorpseGoddess wrote:CodeZTM wrote:Every Opening Ever Made is getting my vote in this category. When it comes down to it, Bonklers was the better PARODY, but I just don't feel like its the better video. It did a great job of mimicking De:Light, I just felt like there wasn't a whole package there. I really can't explain it. It's just how I feel it as a viewer. That's just my personal opinion as a viewer. EOEM was extremely well put together, and had fantastic elements to it and a great flow/feel.
Also, I'd agree that All Hell Lelouch is most definitely a parody, just not on the same level of "quality" as the other parodies when you compare them. All Hell Lelouch was a fantastic video. It's just not a fantastic PARODY video.
Full disclosure: Purplepolecat is my husband. That being said, I'm still an opinionated biotch and have made this argument in the past when his stuff wasn't in the running.
All the videos in the category are great, but if you go by the definition, his video is the only parody video.
If you just ignore the category and vote for the video you like, it kind of defeats the purpose of having separate categories, no? We might as well just throw all the year's vids into a giant pigpile and vote based purely on personal taste. But, since we've gone through all the trouble of sifting through which videos best represent the category, whether or not "Every Opening.??" is a better video (as opposed to a better parody) is irrelevant to this competition.
CorpseGoddess wrote:If you just ignore the category and vote for the video you like, it kind of defeats the purpose of having separate categories, no? We might as well just throw all the year's vids into a giant pigpile and vote based purely on personal taste. But, since we've gone through all the trouble of sifting through which videos best represent the category, whether or not "Every Opening.??" is a better video (as opposed to a better parody) is irrelevant to this competition.
CodeZTM wrote:Although I totally disagree that editing shouldn't be a considered factor. Once you see which degree of how well a parody is done [let's say that there was another really great parody video that obviously fit into this category, on par with Bonklers], then you should obviously go and see which one was better executed in terms of editing.
CodeZTM wrote:CorpseGoddess wrote:If you just ignore the category and vote for the video you like, it kind of defeats the purpose of having separate categories, no? We might as well just throw all the year's vids into a giant pigpile and vote based purely on personal taste. But, since we've gone through all the trouble of sifting through which videos best represent the category, whether or not "Every Opening.??" is a better video (as opposed to a better parody) is irrelevant to this competition.
But EOEM was obviously a parody, thus fitting into the category. After meeting the basic criteria, how can I not consider the editing/flow/atmosphere as a feature to critique the work with? The whole point of critiquing AMVs for this contest is to see which one better combines the elements of editing to each specific category. It's like with "Best First"? Once you knock out the ones that weren't first AMVs, you've got to go by which one was best edited and had the best flow. Parody is a little different, because you also have to ask "which one was the better parody"DAMN IT. Ok, I'll concede the fact that Bonklers should obviously win this one. As much as I openly hate to admit being wrong, you've got a valid and very well argued point.
Although I totally disagree that editing shouldn't be a considered factor. Once you see which degree of how well a parody is done [let's say that there was another really great parody video that obviously fit into this category, on par with Bonklers], then you should obviously go and see which one was better executed in terms of editing.
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