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Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:29 am
by Fall_Child42
That\s the problem Bashar, most of them are not really a parody of anything.

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:31 am
by Nya-chan Production
BasharOfTheAges wrote:So, anyone want to point out what each finalist is a parody of? I don't think I know enough to vote right now.
All hell Lelouch! - Code Geass and South Park
Every Anime Opening Ever - Every Anime Opening Ever
Project Bonklers - AzuDai and Agressor's vid (forgot the name)
The Darkest of Places - Bakemonogatari
The Friend Request - NGE and Facebook

Seriously, you guys are looking for something deep, it's just this easy.

EDIT: Btw, any AMV is basically a parody of the original anime, woooooo! ;>

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:42 am
by Fall_Child42
Nya-chan Production wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:So, anyone want to point out what each finalist is a parody of? I don't think I know enough to vote right now.
All hell Lelouch! - Code Geass and South Park
Every Anime Opening Ever - Every Anime Opening Ever
Project Bonklers - AzuDai and Agressor's vid (forgot the name)
The Darkest of Places - Bakemonogatari
The Friend Request - NGE and Facebook

Seriously, you guys are looking for something deep, it's just this easy.

EDIT: Btw, any AMV is basically a parody of the original anime, woooooo! ;>

that's not how parody works sanya and you know it (I hope)

All hail Lelouch, is not a parody of southpark, nor is it of code gayass.
A parody must take aspects of its original source and exaggerate them for satiric purposes
As it stands it is just a comedy video using a funny song FROM southpark set to scenes FROM codegayass.
A parody of Lelouch would take one aspect of him, say his eye thingy, and exaggerate it, by focusing on just that or making it have funny results. (btw Cross/fade i only used yours as an example because it was on the top of the list, i still like it)

Every anime opening ever made, and Friend request are parodies.
The first using the common visuals in anime openings, focusing on them, and thus making fun of them.
The second, using anime to satirize facebook by pointing out and exaggerating its flaws.

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:53 am
by macchinainterna
Listen to him!

For gods' sakes he's a doctor! :shark:

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:08 am
by Nya-chan Production
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:So, anyone want to point out what each finalist is a parody of? I don't think I know enough to vote right now.
All hell Lelouch! - Code Geass and South Park
Every Anime Opening Ever - Every Anime Opening Ever
Project Bonklers - AzuDai and Agressor's vid (forgot the name)
The Darkest of Places - Bakemonogatari
The Friend Request - NGE and Facebook

Seriously, you guys are looking for something deep, it's just this easy.

EDIT: Btw, any AMV is basically a parody of the original anime, woooooo! ;>

that's not how parody works sanya and you know it (I hope)

All hail Lelouch, is not a parody of southpark, nor is it of code gayass.
A parody must take aspects of its original source and exaggerate them for satiric purposes
As it stands it is just a comedy video using a funny song FROM southpark set to scenes FROM codegayass.
A parody of Lelouch would take one aspect of him, say his eye thingy, and exaggerate it, by focusing on just that or making it have funny results. (btw Cross/fade i only used yours as an example because it was on the top of the list, i still like it)

Every anime opening ever made, and Friend request are parodies.
The first using the common visuals in anime openings, focusing on them, and thus making fun of them.
The second, using anime to satirize facebook by pointing out and exaggerating its flaws.
Okay, since you accept two, I'll delve deeper into the other three.

All hell Lelouch - parodies Lelouch's attitude and his similarity to SP Satan - both being the bad guy who just try to be good and want to live "Up There". Makes fun of Lelouch, basically.
Project Bonklers - COMPLETE visual parody, including effects, of Aggressor's De:Light (looked it up for you)
The Darkest of Places is the hardest to see, but it basically makes fun of the relationship between the protagonists by showing it in completely different view - it takes parts of the original (guy looking at the arse of the girl all the time, dialogues, their looks on each other) and exaggerates them and adds some stuff to express it better.

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:38 am
by Fall_Child42
Nya-chan Production wrote:
Okay, since you accept two, I'll delve deeper into the other three.

All hell Lelouch - parodies Lelouch's attitude and his similarity to SP Satan - both being the bad guy who just try to be good and want to live "Up There". Makes fun of Lelouch, basically.

Project Bonklers - COMPLETE visual parody, including effects, of Aggressor's De:Light (looked it up for you) This is fine, I have not seen it so I didn't comment on it.


The Darkest of Places is the hardest to see, but it basically makes fun of the relationship between the protagonists by showing it in completely different view - it takes parts of the original (guy looking at the arse of the girl all the time, dialogues, their looks on each other) and exaggerates them and adds some stuff to express it better.

All hell Lelouch - parodies Lelouch's attitude and his similarity to SP Satan - both being the bad guy who just try to be good and want to live "Up There". Makes fun of Lelouch, basically.
Yes, but it does not take the character of either "Satan" or "Lelouch" and specifically satirize them. This video could have been made with practically any antagonist, so it really doesn't matter that it's "Making fun of lelouch" It is still not a parody of Lelouch.


Project Bonklers - COMPLETE visual parody, including effects, of Aggressor's De:Light (looked it up for you) This is fine, I have not seen it so I didn't comment on it. <--this is fine, I had not seen the original video, so I didn't comment on it. It is indeed a parody then. (as long as by copying the visual style they are making fun of the style,)


The Darkest of Places is the hardest to see, but it basically makes fun of the relationship between the protagonists by showing it in completely different view - it takes parts of the original (guy looking at the arse of the girl all the time, dialogues, their looks on each other) and exaggerates them and adds some stuff to express it better.
This is simply not a parody. It's just not. It's a well made video, funny, and entertaining. But it's not a parody of anything.
It's not copying any specific show or character, It's not exaggerating any particular easily recognizable anything in order to poke fun at it. It is simply a funny song with wacky character expressions.

Look,
Parody and comedy is something I have thought quite alot about both AMV wise and otherwise. It's a bit of a passion of mine.
I am fully able to say that just because a video is funny does not mean it is a parody. A parody needs to be a satire of a specific person, style, or event and not simply a comedy.

Let's look at films.

Spaceballs: Obviously looks like and emulates the costumes of starwars. it is a parody.
The Producers(1968 the good one): A very funny movie, well written, but not a reference to anything and thus NOT A PARODY.

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:05 am
by Nya-chan Production
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:
Okay, since you accept two, I'll delve deeper into the other three.

All hell Lelouch - parodies Lelouch's attitude and his similarity to SP Satan - both being the bad guy who just try to be good and want to live "Up There". Makes fun of Lelouch, basically.

Project Bonklers - COMPLETE visual parody, including effects, of Aggressor's De:Light (looked it up for you) This is fine, I have not seen it so I didn't comment on it.


The Darkest of Places is the hardest to see, but it basically makes fun of the relationship between the protagonists by showing it in completely different view - it takes parts of the original (guy looking at the arse of the girl all the time, dialogues, their looks on each other) and exaggerates them and adds some stuff to express it better.

All hell Lelouch - parodies Lelouch's attitude and his similarity to SP Satan - both being the bad guy who just try to be good and want to live "Up There". Makes fun of Lelouch, basically.
Yes, but it does not take the character of either "Satan" or "Lelouch" and specifically satirize them. This video could have been made with practically any antagonist, so it really doesn't matter that it's "Making fun of lelouch" It is still not a parody of Lelouch.


Project Bonklers - COMPLETE visual parody, including effects, of Aggressor's De:Light (looked it up for you) This is fine, I have not seen it so I didn't comment on it. <--this is fine, I had not seen the original video, so I didn't comment on it. It is indeed a parody then. (as long as by copying the visual style they are making fun of the style,)


The Darkest of Places is the hardest to see, but it basically makes fun of the relationship between the protagonists by showing it in completely different view - it takes parts of the original (guy looking at the arse of the girl all the time, dialogues, their looks on each other) and exaggerates them and adds some stuff to express it better.
This is simply not a parody. It's just not. It's a well made video, funny, and entertaining. But it's not a parody of anything.
It's not copying any specific show or character, It's not exaggerating any particular easily recognizable anything in order to poke fun at it. It is simply a funny song with wacky character expressions.

Look,
Parody and comedy is something I have thought quite alot about both AMV wise and otherwise. It's a bit of a passion of mine.
I am fully able to say that just because a video is funny does not mean it is a parody. A parody needs to be a satire of a specific person, style, or event and not simply a comedy.

Let's look at films.

Spaceballs: Obviously looks like and emulates the costumes of starwars. it is a parody.
The Producers(1968 the good one): A very funny movie, well written, but not a reference to anything and thus NOT A PARODY.
Okay, I will agree with The Darkest of Places not being a parody, though I have a hard time with Lelouch, mainly because I think the video wouldn't work with other antagonist that well, since Lelouch is NOT an antagonist, as well as Satan is not an antagonist (Lelouch is protagonist, and antagonist in SP is Saddam Hussein). In my view it specifically parodies Lelouch by comparing his personal traits and split personality (or rather personality conflicts) to the very similar Satan ones. But I won't blame you if you think differently - we both see it differently, I suppose ^^

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:23 am
by Ikore
so vote for blonkers :uhoh:

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:54 am
by BasharOfTheAges
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:So, anyone want to point out what each finalist is a parody of? I don't think I know enough to vote right now.
All hell Lelouch! - Code Geass and South Park
Every Anime Opening Ever - Every Anime Opening Ever
Project Bonklers - AzuDai and Agressor's vid (forgot the name)
The Darkest of Places - Bakemonogatari
The Friend Request - NGE and Facebook

Seriously, you guys are looking for something deep, it's just this easy.

EDIT: Btw, any AMV is basically a parody of the original anime, woooooo! ;>

that's not how parody works sanya and you know it (I hope)

All hail Lelouch, is not a parody of southpark, nor is it of code gayass.
A parody must take aspects of its original source and exaggerate them for satiric purposes
As it stands it is just a comedy video using a funny song FROM southpark set to scenes FROM codegayass.
A parody of Lelouch would take one aspect of him, say his eye thingy, and exaggerate it, by focusing on just that or making it have funny results. (btw Cross/fade i only used yours as an example because it was on the top of the list, i still like it)

Every anime opening ever made, and Friend request are parodies.
The first using the common visuals in anime openings, focusing on them, and thus making fun of them.
The second, using anime to satirize facebook by pointing out and exaggerating its flaws.
That's enough info for me to vote - thanks. :up:

Re: The Shinji Red Suit Dress-Up Award (Best Parody Video)

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:05 pm
by Kireblue
I completely agree with Nya about "All Hell Lelouch". And I feel that only people that haven't seen Code Geass would disagree. Even the title is a mixed parody of Code Geass and South Park.

In terms of "The Darkest of Places"......its not really a parody....but its close enough.

Anyway, I'm voting for "All Hell Lelouch".