Do You Hide Your Hobby?

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Postby annyaonweb » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:16 pm

Kevmaster wrote:Why hiding it? O.o It's not like it's something bad...If I'd take drugs or be an alocoholic..or if I'd watch horse porn, then I'd probably hide it, but it's not like being an anime-fan is a crime.


First of all, I am proud to be an amv maker. It got me on my path to the film university and it made my life so much better because it's way more than a "hobby" for me.

It's not like I go around shouting "look at me, i watch anime, kiss meeehh or kick meeeh because u don't agree but i don't care anyway bla-bla-bla and bla!!!!"

Anyway, to get back to the awesome stuff called anime, amvs, mangaz, hentai, yaoi, wtv else u can come up with, it's not a "bad" thing to watch/read these. It's just like any other show. If it comes up in a discussion, someone saying "that's my hobby, i like gardening" or "i watch tv shows" or even "i make rpgs" and who knows what else, then i will also say about my "hobby" or even if there's just a lack of a subject to talk about. I ask if they've heard of anime or anything like it.

If they don't like it, fine by me. If they're curious about it and want to watch it, then i'm glad cause i just made another anime fan to go around shouting "omg i love anime" Okay, enough babbling.

So, it's not bad to look at anime or make amvs. Why be ashamed of something you love? Would you be ashamed of watching a tv show about kids at the age of 20-30 as u watch anime? Or about gardening? Or about reading some magazines? No, i don't think so. Like someone here said, you can choose to have friends who understand you even if they disagree, not people who say "that's stupid so you are too. what are you, like 2 years old?"

Anyway, people around me, which i chose based on their character and ability to think, mostly, are able to understand and give arguments pro or against something without calling me an idiot or talk behind my back "gah, she's a moron for watching/doing something like that at her age".

My family supports me on the way to become a video editor and they also like watching amvs. (Mom actually made a few requests but I only had time to complete one) She even watches the good pro vids here on a-m-v.org so what more can i ask for?

REAL friends will understand you and your family just has to know what it means to you. You don't have to tell everyone about what you do, just if you want to. But believe me, it's nothing to be ashamed of.
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Postby outlawed » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:08 pm

Once you learn someone is also an anime freak/fan/whatever only then are you allowed to acknowledge that anime is cool.

Please learn to follow the don't ask don't tell policy like the Japanese do. While many people in the USA won't know wtf you are talking about if you bring up anime there is always the chance that they do know something or have a Japanese friend and will then brand you a complete fucking loser.

Mind you if you are under the age of 16 and watching Naruto it's OK. And it might be OK for someone in their 20s in Japan to continue reading Jump but I doubt you will see them bragging about it. So I would make certain to not discuss children's manga once you are in your 20s since that kind of brands you almost as bad as some comic book freak. It would be advisable to talk about esoteric/auteur anime like Angel's Egg, Mind Game, or some Studio 4C shorts.

Those who have graduated to higher plains like Pas will probably acknowledge that it's OK for one to discuss online ero manga like that tankoubon of Hanaharu Naruko's Shoujo Material you just imported and luckily made it through customs without notice. I would caution that one should still be careful about discussing Bible Black on your Facebook.

P.S. WTF was this thread about?
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Postby Sukunai » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:14 pm

Moonie wrote:
Sukunai wrote:I'm a freak



Proud to be a freak, as it usually sets me apart from all the sheep of society that I suuuuure don't want to be mistaken for.

Although I usually prefer the term "individual", but I can settle for freak as I know people like myself usually make the sheep nervous.

Hehe, I even don't give a damn about the inevitable sheep based jokes that will result from this post. Hey, whatever you cowards need to make yourselves feel better eh.

"P.S. WTF was this thread about?"

Not 100% sure, but as I think it might be sort of age based relevant.
Younger people tend to fret more so over the image of themselves from their peers than people old enough to know that peer pressure is just that, peer pressure.
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Postby Moonie » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:37 pm

annyaonweb wrote:
Kevmaster wrote:Why hiding it? O.o It's not like it's something bad...If I'd take drugs or be an alocoholic..or if I'd watch horse porn, then I'd probably hide it, but it's not like being an anime-fan is a crime.


First of all, I am proud to be an amv maker. It got me on my path to the film university and it made my life so much better because it's way more than a "hobby" for me.

It's not like I go around shouting "look at me, i watch anime, kiss meeehh or kick meeeh because u don't agree but i don't care anyway bla-bla-bla and bla!!!!"

Anyway, to get back to the awesome stuff called anime, amvs, mangaz, hentai, yaoi, wtv else u can come up with, it's not a "bad" thing to watch/read these. It's just like any other show. If it comes up in a discussion, someone saying "that's my hobby, i like gardening" or "i watch tv shows" or even "i make rpgs" and who knows what else, then i will also say about my "hobby" or even if there's just a lack of a subject to talk about. I ask if they've heard of anime or anything like it.

If they don't like it, fine by me. If they're curious about it and want to watch it, then i'm glad cause i just made another anime fan to go around shouting "omg i love anime" Okay, enough babbling.

So, it's not bad to look at anime or make amvs. Why be ashamed of something you love? Would you be ashamed of watching a tv show about kids at the age of 20-30 as u watch anime? Or about gardening? Or about reading some magazines? No, i don't think so. Like someone here said, you can choose to have friends who understand you even if they disagree, not people who say "that's stupid so you are too. what are you, like 2 years old?"

Anyway, people around me, which i chose based on their character and ability to think, mostly, are able to understand and give arguments pro or against something without calling me an idiot or talk behind my back "gah, she's a moron for watching/doing something like that at her age".

My family supports me on the way to become a video editor and they also like watching amvs. (Mom actually made a few requests but I only had time to complete one) She even watches the good pro vids here on a-m-v.org so what more can i ask for?

REAL friends will understand you and your family just has to know what it means to you. You don't have to tell everyone about what you do, just if you want to. But believe me, it's nothing to be ashamed of.




Thats the way i feel about it.

I never felt ashamed about watching anime or making AMVs.
All of the people that nkow me, know about what im into and are cool about it
and i wouldn't care if someone made fun of me about liking it.
Being an anime fan just feels normal to me. I've been one since I was a kid.
I'd never hide all my anime stuff from people but i would put them out of reach when my nephews come.
Don't want ripped inserts and finger prints all over my dvds >.>
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Postby annyaonweb » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:48 am

Moonie wrote:
annyaonweb wrote:First of all....... (insert huge post here)


Thats the way i feel about it.

I never felt ashamed about watching anime or making AMVs.
All of the people that know me, know about what im into and are cool about it
and i wouldn't care if someone made fun of me about liking it.
Being an anime fan just feels normal to me. I've been one since I was a kid.
I'd never hide all my anime stuff from people but i would put them out of reach when my nephews come.
Don't want ripped inserts and finger prints all over my dvds >.>


Well yeah, it's one thing to not let them on your desk so your little nephews can't break/scratch/make fingerprints on them and another to hide them because ur ashamed. Your reason is logic ^^
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Postby Immorrel » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:39 am

Sukunai wrote:"P.S. WTF was this thread about?"

Not 100% sure, but as I think it might be sort of age based relevant.
Younger people tend to fret more so over the image of themselves from their peers than people old enough to know that peer pressure is just that, peer pressure.


I actually think this is more regional than age discriminate. Where I grew up, if you stated the fact that you liked something that wasn't on the "list" of approved things to like, you tended to become a target. That's what Wurpess was talking about when she talked about survival. It's just that some parts of the world are ever so slightly more bigoted than the rest.

Now it's becoming much easier to be a fan of anime/manga/video games without having to disguise the fact that you do, but that doesn't mean that there aren't still bigots waiting to make your life miserable if you happen to be in the wrong part of the world. I'm glad that you are somewhere where you can have your opinion and the rest of the world be damned Sukunai, but there are places in the world where a little tact will do you a lot better.

As I said previously in this thread, I'm of the "don't ask, don't tell" group specifically because of where I grew up and where I work now. All of my friends know about what I like, but it isn't something that I'll usually hang out for the world to see because it can and will complicate things that I don't have to make so complicated. I'm sure that when I'm older I'll turn the tact off because then I won't have to care, but I'd much rather keep my life as uncomplicated as I can where I am right now.

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Postby Sukunai » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:31 am

Well yes regional can be a concern of course.

For instance, a lot of Japan's culture doesn't translate into North American culture well.

Always find it intensely irritating that homos are ok on tv if it's real world. Ellen Degeneres has a very successful show (like it myself).
But ooooh don't be applying it to cartoons. Thus Sailor Saturn and Sailor Uranus are just "cousins". Way to teach children that some truths are ok for adults, but some truths don't apply to kids.

And of course the painfully obvious. You don't discuss black pride at a clan meeting. You don't discuss evilution in the US Bible Belt. And personal rights and freedoms doesn't go far in a pro life environment. It's also likely not a good thing to discuss your Horde player character in Church. Some radical political viewpoints can be ill advised based on your current location. And of course being the right gender is helpful in some nations around the world. Being of the right faith can be critical in some nations.

My life is not at risk here in ole Canada for liking anime.
But if I was in say Saudia Arabia, I'd be happy to be male, muslim and think that the US was the great satan :) It would be all a big lie, but then some cultures are used to accepting total bullshit as truth, so I'm sure I could tell them anything and they'd believe it.
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Postby OropherZero » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:51 am

^ I think you're more suited to be one of many politicians than an anime fan/amv editor :/

seriously... wtf?
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Postby Sukunai » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:42 am

OropherZero wrote:^ I think you're more suited to be one of many politicians than an anime fan/amv editor :/

seriously... wtf?


"seriously wtf" is a phrase that can be applied to about 90% of daily life though.
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Postby srocketa » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:30 pm

I'm an animation student surrounded by other animation students so it's ok for us to love anime at my university because wer'e obsessed with all animation o.o I don't really hide it at all I don't need to. Though when I was at college I didn't talk about because there were no other people interested in it.
Can I say I can see why some people hide liking anime because some guys (I say SOME) are obsessed with the perverted kind.
Then again I wouldn't get into a conversation about the disturbing content of Berserk or Perfect Blue with my grandparents for example, although I would recommend them to watch Howl's Moving Castle, so it does depend what type of anime and who you are talking to.
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Postby srocketa » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:37 pm

srocketa wrote:I'm an animation student surrounded by other animation students so it's ok for us to love anime at my university because wer'e obsessed with all animation o.o I don't really hide it at all I don't need to. Though when I was at college I didn't talk about because there were no other people interested in it.
Can I say I can see why some people hide liking anime because some guys (I say SOME) are obsessed with the perverted kind.
Then again I wouldn't get into a conversation about the disturbing content of Berserk or Perfect Blue with my grandparents for example, although I would recommend them to watch Howl's Moving Castle, so it does depend what type of anime and who you are talking to.


HAHAHAHAA no wait a sec I lie...we have to hide it from the teachers they HATE anime style
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Postby hasteroth » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:37 am

Simply put. No I do not. If anything I advertise it. I dragged numerous friends into the world of anime. Locked the door, and ate the key. I am a proud member of the anime club. Why would I hide it? IF I hid it to make people like me (which would never happen, my self esteem is just way too high), then if they found out they mightn't like me anymore. So I don't hide it and if they don't like it then they can go away because I don't wanna be your friend!
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Postby Ijexis » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:56 pm

I have posters on my wall and they don't move from there regardless of who stops by. I don't go around talking about my interests because not a lot of people in my area are into it. But at the library there's a small group that's into it. But I haven't been around them much and sometimes I wish I could find someone that had similar interests. I once saw a guy with a Hajime no Ippo shirt and I said to him, "Nice, Hajime no Ippo" and he looked at me funny and confused and I said, "Huh...nice anime shirt...". He then looked at his shirt and replied, "oh, this? I got it at Chinatown." I walked away suppressing the urge to punch him in the face since he obviously had no idea what the shirt was connected to. And thus, this answers your question of why people like that should burn.
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Postby Krisqo » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:09 pm

I guess I hide it to an extent. I have tried showing some of my AMVs to people I know but they never really cared (at least once I stopped making DBZ videos) and that grew as we got older. I guess I'm seen as the guy who still watches cartoons. I sometimes try to sneak people on the trolley glances at my MP3 player when I'm watching videos. I actually had some guy stare at the thing as I watched Castor Troy's Phoenix Wright segment from VG4 as well as Radical_Yue's Radiance and Chiikaboom's Attack of the Otaku. Though he didn't say anything. I would also feel a little embarrassed if I had any time of clothing that made note of Anime. Seems Philadelphia is not that much of an anime and AMV city. I actually fear that I would get beaten up again if I passed myself off as a anime fan :shock:
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Postby Garridy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:40 pm

Its called conversational tact. There are times when certain subjects are best not brought up, depending on the environment you are conversing in.
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