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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:56 pm

I just chatted with my cuz and he says that anime sucks. How do you deal with people who talk like that? that genealize anime, and lump together DBZ with grave of the fire flies and evangelion. and say that aniem as a whole sucks.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Timelessblurr » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:15 pm

you either A try to convert them (which is very hard to do) or B give up and talk bout something else
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:17 pm

I was just telling him that to hate anime as a whole is a retarded thing to do, I could care less aobut converting him, it is just that with convincing people they can often be converted in the process. but right now I was jsut trying to get him to admit that anime does NOT as a wholes suck. which still has not happened yet.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby KLin » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:26 pm

Well, as in any argument, you should ask why a person has the opinion that they do. Ask why they think Anime sucks. And then tell them why you think Anime does not suck. Same thing applies to AMVs, some people think your AMVs suck, and some do not. Often times, both sides have valid points. :)
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Postby False_Martyr » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:47 pm

KLin wrote:Well, as in any argument, you should ask why a person has the opinion that they do. Ask why they think Anime sucks. And then tell them why you think Anime does not suck. Same thing applies to AMVs, some people think your AMVs suck, and some do not. Often times, both sides have valid points. :)


you could listen to all that rational mumbo-jumbo, or you could just beat the guy with a tire iron until he is so bloody and in pain that he admits that he was wrong to get you to stop beating him. then whenever someone mentions anime, he will cower in fear
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Postby Brolli411 » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:54 pm

I, as mentioned, just ask them why. I have a friend who has only seen the commercials for DBZ, and says anime sucks. Damn that show. It gives anime a bad name... With that and pokemon, Makes people think they are kids shows.
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Postby nailz » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:34 pm

How do I deal with it? I come to the forum, and realise that they may be right.
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Postby Olmec » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:31 am

OLMEC COMPARES ANIME TO SUCK NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF IT'S SUCKISH QUALITIES, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF IT'S TENDANCY OF RENDUNDANT COMMERCIALS, ONES WHICH DRIVE OLMEC TO NO END.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:34 am

Lol, Nailz.

Anyway, if they're a person that typically stereotypes then I just don't bother with it. If they're generally open-minded, then I note on the wide variety of themes, plot, characters, and audience. Most people just don't care enough to listen from what I've seen. But a few, I've been able to introduce to a lot of good anime.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:00 am

he said the drawing in anime was undetailed, he them complained about the big eyes they have, he then said he saw harcore anime, and that was it. He refused to tell me what animes he had seen or give me any better explanation. I spent alot of that argument trying to drag an explanation out of him and he wouldn't budge.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Re: How do you have a rational conversation with these peopl

Postby Koopiskeva » Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:24 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:I just chatted with my cuz and he says that anime sucks. How do you deal with people who talk like that? that genealize anime, and lump together DBZ with grave of the fire flies and evangelion. and say that aniem as a whole sucks.


Bring them here.

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Re: How do you have a rational conversation with these peopl

Postby False_Martyr » Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:56 am

Bring them here.

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lol, i like my idea better, but meh
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Postby Wykith » Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:00 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:he said the drawing in anime was undetailed, he them complained about the big eyes they have, he then said he saw harcore anime, and that was it. He refused to tell me what animes he had seen or give me any better explanation. I spent alot of that argument trying to drag an explanation out of him and he wouldn't budge.


First of all you can tell right there he's full of shit. Anime is known for its attention to detail. Maybe not on the character's faces, but definately on everything else. You can take ANY western cartoon and compare it to anime and realize immediately that there is way more detail in anime. It sounds to me like that kid doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and is just pulling your strings. It's the old "it just does" bullshit that should be waved away and considered the insignificant ramblings of the unfortunately ignorant.
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Postby tacooe » Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:30 am

I have gotten one of my friends into anime and she loves it, any sensible person presented with a good thing would but my other friend even at the mention of anim... just says,'I'm not watching any of your chinese cartoon shit'. I've tried, I've really tried to convert her but she won't be helped. You put it on and she fucking talks over it. Bastard that's the worst crime.

My solution is don't even try to to argue unless they ask about it. Feed there curiousity and pity their ignorance.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:16 pm

I don't even want to get him into anime but I can't get him to stop sayign that all of anime sucks. this stinks. :(
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