Wykith wrote:After the U.S. was done with Afganistan it abandoned them.
Yes, we did. It was foolish.
Wykith wrote:It left military personel in places the Afganistan people considered sacred and would not, despite any "peaceful" attempts by anyone, pull them out.
So we abandoned them, yet left military personnel over there? And what "peaceful" attempts?
Wykith wrote:You have to understand this is an unforgivable crime as far as muslims are concerned. Their whole p.o.v. is that America is trying to tell other people how to live their lives, what gods are okay and which ones are not. How they can treat their women, childred, and each other and how they can't.
And on the flip side, many Muslims also want the world to live the way that they say. Your point? As for us telling the Middle East what to do, the people there will sop up numerous Western ideas and goods, given the chance. Is this a good thing? Hard to tell, but the only people who have a problem with this are the Islamic clerics, religious leaders, and theocratic rulers, who stand to lose power if the people aren't afraid of the religious police or bogeymen anymore. And can anyone honestly defend many of the human rights violations that occur in the Middle East in the name of religion?
Wykith wrote:Their response to this, and pardon the continuous cursing, is Fuck you! Who the hell do you think you are!?
Now don't get me wrong I don't agree with the muslim religion but just because I don't agree with it doesn't give me the right to say that it's wrong.
What's your opinion of Christianity?
Wykith wrote:Osama bin laden hates americans. He considers them the enemy because America has it's nose in everyone's business. They come in, take what they need and leave everyone else to fend for themselves.
No, he doesn't like us because he views Americans (arguably the icon of the West) as immoral, and the fact that they were stationed in the holy Land of Sand that is Saudi Arabia angered him. As for the US plundering other countries, do you have any condemnation for the governments and leaders who allow it (US installed puppets or not)? And what about governments that plunder their own nations?
Wykith wrote:They do make the attempt to seem merciful though. First they bomb your home, kill your family and burn everything you own, but at least you get sandwiches afterwards.
In the case of Afghanistan or other conflict heavy areas of the world, the same thing happens because of local warlords, the government, even just civil strife. And you don't get sandwiches afterwards, you're lucky to be buried.
Wykith wrote:All thanx to good old thoughtful uncle Sam.
Who also provides lots of financial aid to the world, for all the non good it does.
Wykith wrote:They are the self proclaimed sheriffs of the world. The final word on what's right and wrong. Acceptable and unacceptable, true and false.
No, that would be the <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel121102.asp">UN</a>, who are trying to stop the leaking bucket that is the world with paper, while saying that their method is best, instead of getting a new bucket.
Wykith wrote:This is why I've dubbed them the evil empire. They take unnecessary liberties with the power given to them.
American involvement in the war of the middle east has caused more casualties than those lost in 911.
Yes, and Europe left a great legacy with its empires. Much of Africa's problems can be traced to the imperialist control, plundering, and subsistence infrastructure that France, England, Belgium, and other nations threw over the African continent, and the power vacuum that occured when the control was either thrown off or moved out. The Soviets, to my knowledge, did what we do and gave military aid to Communist friendly countries, which caused problems. Compared to the centuries of oppression and non progress that caused, the US seems rather tame.
Wykith wrote:They tell jews in Israel to "back off or else" from a conflict that has nothing to do with them. So here comes Frankenstein, tired of the U.S's "soft" oppresive tactics and kicks Uncle Sam right in the fucking nuts.
I hate that 911 happened. But more so than that I hate that there was a reason for it to have happened.
I'm in a constant political debate with a lot of people. I know people that think 911 would have never happened if Bush wasn't president. Everyone has their opinion on the matter but none of us can change the past. All we can do is try to learn from our mistakes. Too bad those who we choose to lead us can't seem to comprehend that notion.
Yes, we should learn from the causes of 9/11. That might mean moving off the world stage for a while, and seeing what happens.
I'm out...