What the word anime means

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What the word anime means

Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:01 am

dictionary.com has the defenition

A style of animation developed in Japan, characterized by stylized colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sex.'



HA! 8)
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Postby stormybaka » Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:44 am

Yeah, yeah, yeah...
and in the oxford dictionary there's
Animate: 1. give life or movement to; make lively; an animated discussion. 2. motivate; he was animated by loyalty. 3. produced as an animated cartoon. *animated cartoon a film made by photographing a series of drawings, giving the illusion of movement.
Animation: 1 animating. 2 liveliness.
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But I think they're a blase and clinical way to describe something so creative and beautiful such as anime.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:28 am

Well the next time someone says its japanese for cartoon I'll tell them that in ENGLISH it means japanese cartoon and they can't argue their point because I am right.
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Postby stormybaka » Fri Nov 08, 2002 2:40 am

Yeah I guess some ppl get the word's meaning incorrect at times...
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"Remember it's anime not cartoon"
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Postby Tsuji Mania » Fri Nov 08, 2002 12:35 pm

First of all I want to thank you for bringing that up because I'm going to personally make sure that is fixed.

characterized by stylized colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sex.


First of all, let's look at the socalled "characteristics".

Colorful art-

So animation from America is not colorful? And since this is a characteristic, what about animations from Japan that are not colorful?

Futuristic settings-

Likewise, are you saying there are no futuristic animated epics from the rest of the world?

Violence-

Heavy Metal, Dog of Flanders

Sex-

Heavy Metal again and any Japanese animated program that doesn't include sex.

Perhaps even more important is that you neglected to see the source of this definition.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


This is the 'highschool drop-out' of English language dictionaries. Now had this been in a Websters or Oxford dictionary, which are considered to be the premier dictionaries for the English language, then I would have to change my view, but a definition that trite would NOT appear in such dictionaries because they're of high standards and have the least amount of errors.

That definition is awful really. No offense to you whatsoever, and like I said, I'm really glad you posted it, but how can one characterize an entire country's work.
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Postby belkram23 » Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:20 pm

Webster's ruling:


a style of animation originating in Japan that is characterized by stark colorful graphics depicting vibrant characters in action-filled plots often with fantastic or futuristic themes

much nicer put i feel. generalizes rather than defines.
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Postby stormybaka » Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:05 pm

When ppl ask me what anime is, I simply reply "It is Japanese animation"
I don't see anything wrong with that description...
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Re: What the word anime means

Postby OhMyBelldandy009 » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:44 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:dictionary.com has the defenition

A style of animation developed in Japan, characterized by stylized colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sex.'



HA! 8)

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Christ, everyone makes it seem as though anime is so bad! I for one think that anime is very, er... EDUCATIONAL? Lol, but seriously, many animes are not about sex, violence, and aren't sci-fi AT ALL! Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away and INUYASHA are all examples of this! And what about sports? Captain Tsubasa! Love? Well, everything has love, and I don't think anime should be CHARACTERIZED as ANYTHING! There are way too many varieties to be able to characterize it as one. I think whoever wrote that definition has only seen Cowboy Bebop.
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Postby stormybaka » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:51 pm

many animes are not about sex, violence,

Yeah true...what about...

"this world is made of love and peace"

I thinks we all know this one... :wink:
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Postby Tsuji Mania » Fri Nov 08, 2002 8:14 pm

I'd also like to add this little qualifer it comes with:

[Japanese, short for animshon, animation, from English animation.]


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Postby klinky » Sat Nov 09, 2002 2:43 am

Didn't two threads get closed over this, tho I don't think this debate should be closed as long as it stays civil. I truely don't know why it was closed last time ....



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Re: What the word anime means

Postby Rozard » Sat Nov 09, 2002 2:48 am

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Yeah, anyhow...let's not debate what the definition of anime is. Everyone has their own connatative meaning for the word, and there isn't a constant denotative meaning. It's all up to how you want to interpret it.
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Postby Garylisk » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:12 am

Anime:
Japanese shorting of the word "Animeshion", which is a Japanese pronunciation of the English word "Animation".

As a word, it simply refers to any sort of animated film. The Japanese refer to their own animation as "Anime". However, for example, American Animation, which most English speakers would call "Cartoons", the Japanese call "Amerika no Anime" or "American Anime" (Lit. Anime belonging to America).

As a slang term used in America and other nations which do not speak Japanese natively (Including but not limited to countries whose native language is French, German, Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Cantonese, and Russian.), the word Anime refers specifically to Japanese Animation and the Japanese Animation art style. (Such as "Anime style characters" or "Anime style plot" etc...). It definitely intones a flavor of distinction which is purely of a Japanese origin when used in this fashion.



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Postby CaTaClYsM » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:36 am

so the word Anime is derived from a word in japan that is derived from a word in english. In japan it means cartoon, in ENGLISH it means a style of art originated in japan, you want to take on websters and the rest of the dictionaries that is fine by me, but until you change what they put in there, me, and the rest of the world, are right. And yes, people can say it means cartoon, and people can be wrong, noone can change that, but the one thing anyone that goes by the japanese definition CAN'T do, is say that I am wrong. It has an english meaning, and that cannot be changed.
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Postby RyanGlazner » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:46 am

I don't really give a fuck what it says in some dictionary. I'm gonna call it what I like and with the meaning I like regardless of what all you other odd people do :P

Just for reference, how many people participating in this have had language study classes and know enough about the subject to present a valid viewpoint? I mean, I can jump in and say "the word anime, which is derived from some Swedish word or other, which is derived from the language spoken before the Tower of Babel (assuming i've read the Bible), means, literally, 'A flying monkey crapped in my shoe'." What gives you guys the authority to say what it means? Not picking on anyone. I'm genuinely curious! There're so many factors in language study that it's quite hard to pin stuff down without knowing what to look for.
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