ANIME... not cartoon...

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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:42 pm

AHHHH!!!! TYPO IN FIRST SENTENCE!!!

This is what I should have said:

That's only cause some idiot translator is telling them that "Cartoon" is the American word for "Anime", and "Anime" is the Japanese word for "Cartoon"!
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Postby Castor Troy » Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:57 pm

This thread..

scares me... :shock:
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Postby Angel_Killer_777 » Fri Oct 11, 2002 3:30 pm

Clara Yuri Asaki wrote:That's only cause some idiot translator is telling them that "Cartoon" is the American word for "Anime", and "Anime" is the Japanese word for "Cartoon"!


One idiot translator duped an entire country; thank god you brought this to our attention. :roll:

Clara Yuri Asaki wrote:GROW UP ALREADY!!! Don't you have anything better to do than terrorize true anime fans with your jealous, envious, wannabe talk?!!!!


I don't even know how to respond to that.

Clara Yuri Asaki wrote:If you truly believe that Cartoons and Anime are the same just because both are animated, then you are a primative fool who can only grasp the most basic of concepts!


This is a basic concept. The fact that anime and cartoons are the same thing is just about the most basic, simplified, no assembly required, just add water concept there is. The only difference is which side of the planet they are made on.

If it's out of Japan use a Japanese word to describe it, like anime. If it's out of the states use an English word to describe it, like cartoon.

If it's not live action 99.9% of the time it's a cartoon. Just because it’s serious doesn’t mean it’s not a cartoon. What else do you call an animated program? And don’t say show, because every thing is a show.


PS: please calm down Clara, it’s not that big a deal.
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Postby jonmartensen » Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:07 pm

Sounds like somebody is embarased that they like cartoons.

Sure bugs bunny isn't anime, and Jin Roh isn't just a cartoon but so what!
I just think of it as Anime actually has a story line and usually plot, cartoons are just enjoyable to watch and don't have a story line.
Thats why shows like G Gundam, and DBZ are more of a cartoon and shows like Akira and Cowboy Bebop are Anime.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:22 pm

Actually, I meant that some idiot Language teacher is telling that...or anyone else who is telling them that "Cartoon" is the American word for "Anime".... not the person that translated the whole language.

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I'm also trying to tell you all that there is much more than just the origins that make Anime and Cartoons two very different things! Style!!! Think style!!!! Origin and Style!!!! Origin, Stlye, and Type!!! The list can go for a long time!

But, yeah, the origins should be enough for you to know that they ARE different things and have different names!! And that one is not the other!

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I'm not sure what to call animated shows like Hey Arnold! and Kim Possible.... but they're not Cartoons or Anime!

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I can't just relax if people are going around saying false things.....
And screaming breaks through that armor called "I'm not listening."

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Shows like DBZ and Gundam are more like Cartoons because what Cartoon Network did to them.... or rather... how they allowed them to be seen.... wait.... ahhh.... I'm not sure what I'm trying to say.... but I think you can get the idea..... :oops:

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I just want you all to realize that "Cartoons" and "Anime" are not interchangable words.... They DO apply to two very different things. Animes are not Cartoons, and Cartoons are not Animes.

I like watching some Cartoons, like "Sponge Bob Square Pants", and some "anynomously named animated shows" like "Hey Arnold!" and "Kim Possible". And I really like watching Anime too!! I'm not someone who is embarrassed to say that they watch Cartoons! Yet, I know that Cartoons and Anime are not the same! I'm being very fair and this is still what I'm saying!

(actually, a side-note here... While I'm not embarrassed to say that I'm OK with watching Cartoons, I'm very proud to say that I love watching Anime..... And that doesn't alter my judgement about any of this)
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Postby Angel_Killer_777 » Fri Oct 11, 2002 4:50 pm

Oh well. I've said my piece, and continuing this is futile, so I'll stop arguing with you now, Clara.
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Postby jonmartensen » Fri Oct 11, 2002 5:15 pm

well you sound much more reasonable now, so teh cool.

cartoon and anima are different, yes, but I could care less what people title it as long as they don't call it all crap. At least people who "like that cartoon" are willing to base judgment on a show based on it's story line and not its medium i.e. animated vs. filmed
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Fri Oct 11, 2002 5:22 pm

Yes, I suppose so.... :)

Really though.... the only people who call an Anime a Cartoon are those who have only gotten as far as liking the stuff on Cartoon Network... so it isn't that bad, cause why would you listen to someone like that about this subject anyways?..... And of course, all the Anime fans who like watching Anime already know that Anime and Cartoons are two different things...... So I'm not sure who I was really yelling at..... I'm just tired of quick and unreasonable assumptions being the basis of what something really is....
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Postby Tsuji Mania » Fri Oct 11, 2002 5:50 pm

I will say this yet AGAIN because certain individuals can't seem to grasp the concept.

car·toon Pronunciation Key (kär-tn)
n.

A drawing depicting a humorous situation, often accompanied by a caption.
A drawing representing current public figures or issues symbolically and often satirically: a political cartoon.
A preliminary sketch similar in size to the work, such as a fresco, that is to be copied from it.
An animated cartoon.
A comic strip.
A ridiculously oversimplified or stereotypical representation: criticized the actor's portrayal of Jefferson as a historically inaccurate cartoon.

v. car·tooned, car·toon·ing, car·toons
v. tr.
To draw a humorous or satirical representation of; caricature.

v. intr.
To make humorous or satirical drawings.

This is like the geometry comparison of squares and rectangles. Hopefully some of you fanboys and fangirls out there can grasp the concept.

All animated humorous cartoons originating in Japan are Japanese anime. Not all Japanese anime are cartoons.

Excel Saga- Cartoon
Dragon Half- Cartoon
Project A-Ko- Cartoon
Golden Boy- Cartoon
Ebichu- Cartoon

and so on.

I hope that was easy enough to understand. Next time if it isn't getting through I will try to express myself monosyllabicaly for you.
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Postby The Non-Professional » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:07 pm

after reading all this and thinking...

SOME! Animes are cartoons and some animes ARE NOT!

That makes sence if you think about it. This thread has too much argueing. Arguing on the internet is like the "special" olympics, no one wins.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:32 pm

Those Animes can be considered cartoons only in description. If you call them cartoons only meaning that they are funny, then I suppose it's OK.

That kind of cartoon is very different from the Cartoons that I was talking about....

I think the Idea of saying that a cartoon is "An animated cartoon" seems kinda weird...... no?

But still... Animes are more than just drawings.... And I especially believe this for the funny Animes like Excel Saga and Dragon-Half...... so, most of those definitions don't even apply. And besides, I said earlier that the technical definitions aren't too important anymore. Since we have both Anime and Cartoons, you have to use these words respectively now to point out either an Anime or a Cartoon.... you can't go around saying that they are both the same when there are these two different words for them both.... and of course... they're not the same anyways. "Gay" doesn't mean "Happy" anymore, does it? But, what does it say in the dictionary? (I mean, what is the PRIMARY definition of "Gay" in the dictionary?)

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I'd also like to add that I wouldn't consider games like the Street Fighter series and Devil May Cry to be Cartoon games.... those are easily Anime games! So... that kinda helps to point out why these two very different medias have two different names.... no?
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Postby The Non-Professional » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:35 pm

maybe its one of those duble standard things like cartoons cant be anime while anime can be a cartoon, just a thought, i agre with Clara Yuri Asaki in most of this threads everyone else, your entitled to your opinions but, im egotistic sometimes so mines are better!!!
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Postby Lyrs » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:38 pm

All is art.

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Postby The Non-Professional » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:40 pm

true, i saw Sam Faras video, it said anime was officialy an art form, so anime cant be a cartoon cause cartoons arent art forms. SO ANIME ISNT CARTOONS!
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:54 pm

That has got to be the best and COOLEST thing said here!!!! WOW!!! THAT'S SO COOL!!!!! Thank you, Thank you!!! Arigato!!!!! Thank you and Arigato for pointing out that VERY VALUABLE GOLDEN piece of info!!!!

That really helps out!!! YEAH!!!! We need more COOL thoughts like that, Non-Profesional! [WaterfallTearsEffect] So.... cool!! [/WaterfallTearsEffect]
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