ANIME... not cartoon...

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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:18 pm

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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:19 pm

I would say animes ARE cartoon. These days the word cartoon just means anything that is animated, not just kids animated shows. The Simpsons aren't for little kids, but they are still a cartoon.South Park definetly isn't for kids, but it's still a cartoon. The fact that it is animated, to me, makes anime cartoons. They are just exceptionally well done cartoons, compared to american ones. Sorry if any or all of this has been said before, I didn't read through the thread before posting ^^.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:30 pm

Yes, it was kinda already said before.

Cartoons are not for kids, of course. That has nothing to with my saying Anime aren't Cartoons. They are not same, and shouldn't be called the same name.
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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:32 pm

Well, of course they aren't the same, one is made and japan and one is made here. But music made in japan sounds different than music made in america, but it's still music.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:33 pm

Music is Music. Duh. Anime is not Cartoon. Big difference.
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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:35 pm

I was just making a comparison. To say animation is in a different category because it's from a different country is the same as saying music, or anything for that matter, belongs in a different category because it's from another country. Cartoons is a broad word used to describe animated television shows/movies. Anime falls under this category.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:40 pm

Anime is Anime and not Cartoon not because it comes from a different country, but because it is very different from Cartoon. Anime and Cartoon are both different types of Animation.
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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:43 pm

Right, but my point is, anime may be a different kind of animation than american cartoons, but then again, rap is a different kind of music than country, or pop, or metal. Just because it's different than other things int he same category doesn't make it in a new category all by itself.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:02 pm

Right.

Rap and Country are both types of Music. They are very different, but are still both types of Music. You don't say that Rap is Country, or that Country is Rap.

Anime and Cartoon are both types of Animation. They are very different, but are still both types of Animation. You don't say that Anime is Cartoon, or that Cartoon is Anime.
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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:20 pm

car·toon Pronunciation Key (kär-tn)
n.

1.) A drawing depicting a humorous situation, often accompanied by a caption.
2.) A drawing representing current public figures or issues symbolically and often satirically: a political cartoon.
3.) A preliminary sketch similar in size to the work, such as a fresco, that is to be copied from it.
4.) An animated cartoon.
5.) A comic strip.
6.) A ridiculously oversimplified or stereotypical representation: criticized the actor's portrayal of Jefferson as a historically inaccurate cartoon.

These are the definitions given by dictionary.com. The first one refers only to comedy, but since we are talking about animated shows in general, we need not concern ourselves with it. THe second one also is irrelevant to the discussion. Same with the third, it doesn't even refer to TV shows. The fourth definition supports my argument, saying that anything animated is a cartoon. The fifth doesn't refer to TV shows. THe sixth one also doesn't mean anything to this discussion.

In short, every animated TV show or movie or whatever is a cartoon. The way the word is used, the word cartoon is synonamous with the words animated entertainment media. Therefore, animes are cartoons, but cartoons are not necessarily anime. Anime is a sub genre of the genre cartoons/animation.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:33 pm

Definition #4 says that a Cartoon is an animated Cartoon.

First off, that sounds very weird..... Second off, what does that have to do with Anime?

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Animated shows are refered to as Cartoons?..... That's not right either. Anime and Cartoons are subgenres of Animation.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:35 pm

Clara Yuri Asaki wrote:I'm so sorry Anime Jedi!! Ahhhh.. it's my fault the Emoticons or My Sig isn't showing up. I think if I change my Sig to a JPG instead of the Bitmap that it now, a-m-v.org might not have trouble loading it. Since it never finishes loading my Sig Pic, it won't go on to the rest the stuff (Emoticons) SORRY!!! :oops:

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And RogeRgal, ANIMATION INCLUDES CARTOONS!!! Not the otherway around! :evil:

That's ok. I can see it very well now. And it looks awesome! It's really great. :D

I hate to say this, but I think it was a problem with the pic. What was worse was, since it never finished loading, every site I went on last night, I couldn't see their pics either. I knew it was something here, 'cause I was fine until I checked this thread. I tested this twice. But all fine now. :D
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:43 pm

Phew... I'm very glad to hear that!
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Postby Alucard_FoN » Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:21 pm

Sheesh, nevermind, I'm done with this debate, because I dislike it when people can only use the argument "I'm right because I'm right" which is, no offense, but it's basically what all you have been saying boils down to. You have yet to show a single piece of concrete evidence why anime would not be considered a cartoon. Until you do, I'm done, because I dislike debates of opinion.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:35 pm

We have mentioned that Anime is officially Art, while Cartoons are not. That would definetly make them not the same.
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