ANIME... not cartoon...

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ANIME... not cartoon...

Postby The Non-Professional » Wed Oct 09, 2002 4:49 pm

Ever talked to a friend or someone metion an anime and they are like "Oh! I've seen that cartoon, i like it." i hate it when they call it a cartoon cause its not a cartoon anime is something more than a cartoon to me. or am i just weird by getting defensive like that?
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Postby Angel_Killer_777 » Wed Oct 09, 2002 5:04 pm

that happens to me some times, but I don't really care. So they used the wrong adjective, at least they're watching it.
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Postby alternatefutures » Wed Oct 09, 2002 5:09 pm

If the anime you were watching was meant to be humorous, it is a cartoon. Anime and cartoon are not exclusive terms, there is a lot of overlap between the two.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Oct 09, 2002 5:19 pm

I think people tend to use "cartoon" to mean animated programs that are designed for children, and have little if any appeal to most adults. Dora the Explorer, for example. It usually bugs me too, but only because of the "children-only" connotation the word "cartoon" has obtained in our society over time.
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Postby MAS PRODUCTIONS » Wed Oct 09, 2002 5:26 pm

I have never considered anime a cartoon, but family members have. Now adays they understand that many animes are more mature than live action anything. Its one of those things that annoy me:

1. anime are cartoons

2. dragonball z is the greatest anime ever.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Wed Oct 09, 2002 6:20 pm

I just end up using "cartoon" since that's pretty much what my friends understand. I say "anime", and their all like "huh?". Then I give and example they'll understand, and they say"oh, cartoons". So I end up sighing a lot. :(
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Postby Lyrs » Wed Oct 09, 2002 6:32 pm

My parents consider anime jap cartoon...i just think it's art.

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Postby Tsuji Mania » Wed Oct 09, 2002 7:06 pm

Japanese Anime can certainly be cartoons. The definition of cartoon is "a satirical animated sketch". So you'd be lying (or ignorant) if you didn't consider Dragon Half a cartoon.
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Postby SarahtheBoring » Wed Oct 09, 2002 7:46 pm

alternatefutures wrote:If the anime you were watching was meant to be humorous, it is a cartoon. Anime and cartoon are not exclusive terms, there is a lot of overlap between the two.


I agree with this. I think people just get all huffy about the word "cartoon" because they are overdefensive about being anime fans.

Angel_Killer also had a good point in that the terminology isn't the important part, the important part is that they watch it. :)
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Wed Oct 09, 2002 7:57 pm

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That's a banner I made for my webpage and pretty much explains how I feel about the terms.

I know anime are also cartoons, but most language has more meaning in what it means in a cultural or social way than a literal sense. The perfect example of this is everyone's favorite 'F' word :wink:

So, in japan anime means all cartoons. Well here in the states, to the majority of people it means a japanese cartoon. So who am I to stand in the way of progress? Americans tend to think cartoon means something for a kid so you could try and change an entire country's way of thinking about the term "cartoon" or you could just say anime and let them figure out what the difference between shoujo and hentai on their own :p

But as Excel so lovingly put it, Viva animation!
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Postby alternatefutures » Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:15 pm

The Simpsons and South Park are considered cartoons by American society. So the notion that cartoon means "something for a kid" is just blown up by those two examples.
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Postby TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:20 pm

Would you people just grow some balls and admit you watch cartoons. Its not that big a deal. So maybe technically the word cartoon doesnt apply to animation that involves serious subject matter, but most people really dont care. Ive always got the distinct impression some anime fans are so against calling anime a cartoon simply because they are afraid of either being made fun of for watching cartoons or just want to feel above people that watch american cartoons that they think is just for little kids. So, they try to put what they watch in a different catagory. I know not everyone is like this, and those that are probably wont admit it, but for those that are, get over it already.
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:20 pm

You mean to tell me, you have never heard people say the simpsons and south park are deceptive because they look like they are for kids but have humor for adults?
I remember when they first came out that is all the media said.
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:28 pm

TheRealNeoHentaiMaster wrote:Would you people just grow some balls and admit you watch cartoons. Its not that big a deal. So maybe technically the word cartoon doesnt apply to animation that involves serious subject matter, but most people really dont care. Ive always got the distinct impression some anime fans are so against calling anime a cartoon simply because they are afraid of either being made fun of for watching cartoons or just want to feel above people that watch american cartoons that they think is just for little kids. So, they try to put what they watch in a different catagory. I know not everyone is like this, and those that are probably wont admit it, but for those that are, get over it already.


I don't think the people who are afraid to admit they watch cartoons like powerpuff girls, gargoyles, any sunday adult swim show, simpsons, sponge bob...etc... are here. We all watch all kinds of animation here, that's what we practically revolve our lives around here isn't it?

The people who are afraid to say it are the types that don't want to admit the word cartoon shouldn't automatically inspire an image of a child on saturday morning. They may not want to be associated with what they think other people may think of as childish. (most of the time, these tend to be people who do a good job by themselves)

But it's not just the public, the audience a marketing demographic plays to practically cements the word in that place. Social thinking can change though....maybe someone should go over to petitionsonline :roll:
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Postby Chef » Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:32 pm

time for a lyrs moment:

animes are cartoons. get over it.

...and im spent.
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