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Postby ZeWrestler » Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:19 pm

kefka(ff6) or sepfthrof (can't spell 2night, ff7)
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Postby SpPANDA » Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:46 pm

sephiroth was a bad ass.

period.
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Postby OrionPro001 » Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:25 am

Kefka
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Postby UncleMilo » Wed Jul 03, 2002 12:47 am

Sadly, I have no idea who Kefka is.

However... Sephiroth was just too damn cool...
furthermore, FF7 is still one of my all time favorite games...

so... Sephiroth gets my vote.

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Postby alternatefutures » Wed Jul 03, 2002 1:27 am

Kefka. Sephiroth may have been a bad ass, but Kefka was psychotic.
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Neither!

Postby jbone » Wed Jul 03, 2002 2:10 am

Sephiroth was a tragic villain because he was engineered by a cruel company bent on abusing his abilities and keeping all truth from him.

Less known, however, is that Kefka was driven mad by an accident during early experiments to infuse him with magical ability.

Thus, neither was truly evil - one was driven by revenge, the other was purely insane.
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Postby ZeWrestler » Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:53 pm

in my opinion, kefka
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Postby LongShot » Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:56 pm

Sephiroth hands down.
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Postby SarahtheBoring » Thu Jul 04, 2002 3:31 pm

We aren't talking about more badass, we're talking about more EVIL.

FF6 and 7 spoilers ahoy. And sorry if I misremember minor points of FF6's script; it's been years.

I think it's Kefka. Reasons:

Kefka, without a doubt, killed more people and took more joy in it than Sephiroth ever did. Sephiroth is known to have murdered two people, not counting the clones: President Shinra and Aeris. And no matter how much you may want/love/idolize/fetishize Aeris, that is not as devastating as poisoning the entire city of Doma, as Kefka did. And when it comes to widespread destruction, Kefka wins hands-down. Though Sephiroth WAS on his way to destroying the world, he never actually did so. Kefka did, wiping out half the world with the Light of Judgment and turning it into a wasteland.

Both of them were warped by circumstance (and science, in Square's usual science-is-evil, magic-is-good polarity, which only FF8 reversed) - Kefka was warped by the Magitek experiments, and Sephiroth by his original creation and probably by being brought up as a living superweapon.

However, out of those two, consider that Kefka probably chose to go under those experiments. All indications are that he was a regular general, like Leo, before being infused and going bonkers. Seph did not. He was screwed up from before birth onward. So, in that case I'd also tip the scale toward Kefka, for having had some hand in his own insanity.

Now, Hojo and Kefka might be a closer race. IMO Hojo is far and away the "true villain" of FF7; after all, pretty much everything that happened to Seph to make him so insane is traceable back to Hojo. He also orphaned Aeris and made Cloud the psychological freakshow we know and love. ;)

Anyhow, sheer moral depravity, between Kefka and Sephiroth, Kefka absolutely.
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Postby ZeWrestler » Thu Jul 04, 2002 4:45 pm

well said
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Postby Raistlin Mage » Sat Jul 06, 2002 1:07 am

I've never actually finished FFVI, but I've played enough of it. Sephiroth is definitely the better villain. Kefka is just a jacked up clown.
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Postby jbone » Sat Jul 06, 2002 2:42 am

Exdeath from Final Fantasy V is more evil than either Kefka or Sephiroth would ever hope to be. In fact, I believe Exdeath is the last *truly* evil main villain in a Final Fantasy game - though I haven't played Final Fantasy X, so I son't know if it contains a truly evil villain. (Judging by the trend, though, I'd venture to guess Final Fantasy X's villain isn't truly evil, either.)
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Postby SarahtheBoring » Sat Jul 06, 2002 3:29 am

This is true. Before they started giving them excuses and angstiness. ;)

However, you might want to consider Ultimecia from FF8 as "truly evil". She didn't seem to have much to her other than wanting to destroy the universe, as I recall...
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Postby Mroni » Sat Jul 06, 2002 5:40 am

Zordar from star blazers is the most evil guy around. Quote from opening
song "if zordars plot should work he'll destroy the universe" with such lofty goals how can you say anyone is more evil ?


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Postby ZeWrestler » Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:36 am

lets stick to FF6 and FF7 guys
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