How to Spot a Bootleg

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Postby silver_moon » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:32 am

Can anyone help me determine if this FMA DVD is legitimate?

Since it'll be about a year before the last Fullmetal Alchemist DVD comes to North America, I've been looking around for some imports. I found some pretty cheap Region 3 DVDs for the series at YesAsia.com (which I've heard is a legitimate site). But I'm a little curious about why they're so much cheaper than the original Japanese versions. Here's the one I'm looking at:

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/c ... 004042312/

The Region 3 DVD is only $15.99 US, while the Japanese Region 2 is about $60. So I'm wondering:

-Does this look like a legitimate DVD?
-Will the region 3 be as good of quality as the region 2?
-Will this version have removable subtitles?

Any thoughts?
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Postby Kalium » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:48 am

The Chinese language stuff gives me a bit of pause, but some googling suggests that yesasia is safe.
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Postby Melanchthon » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:06 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIGUN-DVD-BOX-SE ... dZViewItem

Legit or no? They're region-free, dead cheap and on three discs, but apart from that it looks okay (well, to the non-paranoid anyway). There's something a little funky about the first pic, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it's just the photo quality. :?
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Postby Yunacat » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:02 am

@silver_moon: It's legit. I'm not really sure what the difference is between Region 2 and Region 3, but if you bother looking around, you might be able to find it.


@Kalium: Yep, Yesasia.com is pretty much safe. I go there for Video Games, Anime, Music, and Manga!^^ (mostly games though..but still...)


@Melanchthon: Seems safe to me. Can't really tell completely though. The tracks and subtitles seem safe...
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Postby CHS_BanMidou » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:54 am

First off, let me say that I'm really glad I saw this thread. I was about to buy the Berserk DVD boxset from d*******a****d**.com when I saw it on this thread. I was like, "Oh shit!". Luckily I stopped though. I then found animecastle.com. It's priced like normal boxsets, I believe. About $72 for Season 1 of Berserk. I just want to make sure before I purchase anything. I hate bootlegs.

What sucks though is I think I got some from eBay that are bootlegged. Ragnarok Online the Animation and Star Ocean EX. Makes me a sad koala. Those were the days before I got into anime like I am now though..
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Postby Unpronounceable_Symbol » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:07 am

Dunno about Germany's release schedule, but in the States FLCL was released on three discs, and assuming "Anzahl der DVDs" means "number of discs," any one-disc set should be assumed to be bootlegged.
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Postby celibi87 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:54 am

Can anyone validate this ste? [MOD99: site removed.]
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Postby cholinms » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:07 am

Looking at some of the other products available that's most likely a bootleg site. I mean they've got Full Metal Panic complete on 2 discs.

Also FFVII:AC hasn't been released yet and it has multi-language subtitles. Most of the time if it's a valid release it wil only have subs for the target audiance.
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Postby Kai Stromler » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:29 am

-Good for Nothing- wrote:I have a request to make:

Can anyone tell me if the products offered at the following links are fansubs / pirated copies?



All four of those links are bootlegs. There's no legitimate release of FLCL on one disc with an English dub track.

With regards AnimeCastle, at least their "Hong Kong Import" section is all bootleg. Their straight DVD section is technically OK, but ethical fans should probably refrain from sending money to anyone who profits from bootlegging.

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Postby hypes » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:59 pm

HELP! Thanks to this thread, I've learned to identify probably boot legs, and have found a bunch in my area, but it would seem all my friends, who are no longer ignorant due to my teachings of this post, do not care! Everyone around me is turning into a freegin' pirate! A store at a mall near here sold my friend a definate (I'm pretty sure) bootleg of Samurai7. It's got about a dozen diffrent company labels on it, Funimation is nowhere to be seen, it has both languages, and it's all on like three disks! Now I can't say how many DVDs Samurai7 has but it also came in one of those fold boxes with no plastic showing. I've only seen one elgit anime sold like that over here, Metropolis. This fiend is a moron and argues since he bought it at a store and not online its legit. Another friend of mine took a buch of DVDs I told him were bootleg to a pawn shop guy and he said that they were Asian legit, but they had English dub, an e-mail that was at yahoo.com, and, well, it's Trigun on three disks. Also its region 0! It screams boot leg but because the pawn shop game store guy said it's legit, he won't listen. Also, a third friend is the most dubious yet. He's a high schooler and has bit torrent. He's toying with the idea of downloading all of Alchemist and then burning them on CDs and selling them. He's said he's been offered 30 bucks. Thats MASSIVLY illegal, but he says its an easy way to get money and he doesnt want to get a job and kids at this school are too poor for Funi's 70 dollar set because they're all coke heads. Lame excuses, but he just won't listen! If your going to dl a show, watch it once, then delete it. If it was good, go out and buy it, and if your friends want it, tell them to go buy it too. Sadly, no one listens to me.
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Postby GreenT » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:58 am

Well, to start off, when I ordered my Love Hina Perfect Collection. When I finally got my movies in the mail, instead of 9, I got 3 disks. I'm like, "wtf?" I can't tell if it's bootlegged. It HAS an english track, all the menus and sutch are like the ones from the 6 disk eps and 3 movies, and the subtitles seem just fine to me. Here are some pics of what I got:

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Sorry for crappy shots, but I only had my cellphone available, and I'm to lazy to turn on my lights....
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Postby Willen » Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:23 am

Onimura wrote:Well, to start off, when I ordered my Love Hina Perfect Collection. When I finally got my movies in the mail, instead of 9, I got 3 disks. I'm like, "wtf?" I can't tell if it's bootlegged. It HAS an english track, all the menus and sutch are like the ones from the 6 disk eps and 3 movies, and the subtitles seem just fine to me. Here are some pics of what I got:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ ... 6_0252.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ ... 6_0251.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ ... 6_0250.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ ... 6_0249.jpg

Sorry for crappy shots, but I only had my cellphone available, and I'm to lazy to turn on my lights....

Those are bootlegs. The dead giveaway is the fx logo on the package. Also, I've seen a great deal of bootlegs like the left one that use that type of folding disc case. The one on the right doesn't use the correct logo for a US/english language release. I'll bet dimes to dollars that the video quality is noticably poorer compared to the legit thing since they are cramming 9 discs into 3.
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Postby stickmangrit » Mon May 15, 2006 9:17 pm

hypes wrote: Sadly, no one listens to me.
The world is turning pirate and even though Funi's not my fav anime fouse, they still deserve their cash.


whilst i do not personally endorse piracy, i can certainly take a guess at why you're friends are so apathetic to the issue. have you looked at the price of NA anime lately? i mean communist christ on a pogo stick, it's gotten ridiculous. my dad's a big fan of InuYasha, but just cannot bring himself to morgage his home for the DVD's. and the three thirty minute episodes to a disc trend is royally pissing me off (or in the case of FLCL, TWO thirty minute eps so they could justify charging people for a three-disc set). and don't give me some BS line about video quality. my Firefly boxed set contains fourteen hours of show on only four discs, and looks just fine. same for my Batman: The Animated Series season 1 box. so why does Cowboy Bebop, which has less than thirteen hours of show, require SIX F***ING DISCS?!?!?!? why can the three hour run of FLCL not be fit on one disc, or a two disc/single package setup like the Clerks animated series? because the people selling this are having far too much fun raping our wallets.
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Postby Willen » Tue May 16, 2006 6:34 am

stickmangrit wrote:
hypes wrote: Sadly, no one listens to me.
The world is turning pirate and even though Funi's not my fav anime fouse, they still deserve their cash.


whilst i do not personally endorse piracy, i can certainly take a guess at why you're friends are so apathetic to the issue. have you looked at the price of NA anime lately? i mean communist christ on a pogo stick, it's gotten ridiculous. my dad's a big fan of InuYasha, but just cannot bring himself to morgage his home for the DVD's. and the three thirty minute episodes to a disc trend is royally pissing me off (or in the case of FLCL, TWO thirty minute eps so they could justify charging people for a three-disc set). and don't give me some BS line about video quality. my Firefly boxed set contains fourteen hours of show on only four discs, and looks just fine. same for my Batman: The Animated Series season 1 box. so why does Cowboy Bebop, which has less than thirteen hours of show, require SIX F***ING DISCS?!?!?!? why can the three hour run of FLCL not be fit on one disc, or a two disc/single package setup like the Clerks animated series? because the people selling this are having far too much fun raping our wallets.

Unless I really love a show (Planetes, AMG TV), I usually wait for a thinpak or box set to go on sale. Bandai and ADV have recently repacked many older series into collections priced pretty reasonably, and you can get them fairly cheap from places like DeepDiscountDVD or Right Stuf when there is a sale on. Plus, if you have issues with the DVDs (*cough*Escaflowne*cough*), you can get a fixed disc exchange from the companies.
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