How important is the soundtrack to you?

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How important is the soundtrack to you?

Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:16 am

I was just wondering how people feel about the soundtrack of a series. How important is it to you? Me, I can be greatly affected by a good soundtrack. The right music at the right moment, combined with good storytelling, just hits me hard. Not just music either, but the use of sound itself. From the dead quiet in the final scene of Cowboy Bebop, save for Spike's footsteps, to the chaotic maelstrom of voices in End of Evangelion.

Good music and good use of sound can make certain scenes hit the viewer in the gut, while inappropriate usage can really hurt what is supposed to be a dramatic scene (Two examples of this. In Eva, the scene where Misato and Kaji are talking after they have been drinking all evening, I think the music in that scene is too damn intrusive. I really feel it should have been quieter and more subdued. Also, in Blue Submarine No. 6, I hated the jazz music in some of the fight scenes. It just felt out of place and unnecessary to me.)

I'll end my spiel here, but I'm curious what the rest of you have to say about a series' or a movie's soundtrack. How much does it affect you?
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:31 am

Music is very important. Maybe it's because I am a girl, but when music is getting beautiful and sad or I see someone on screen crying...it gets to me. So I think it's just as important as anything visual.

Changing or taking out music of a scene is as bad as changing what you see. And editing an anime's music to fit an audience is even worse because it not only changes the feel, but the meaning and can be as damaging as changing dialogue. That's something several dubs are guilty of doing.

Since we are amv makers, we would probably appreciate the music of a scene in a different way than most fans. We look at it in a more critical way. Especially since when we make a music video we literally have to match up feelings as much, if not more than, timing. It's almost more about the music.
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Postby bloodyfang » Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:34 am

funny you should mention the final scene in Cowboy Bebop. I was just watching it. you are right..i love that scene.


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Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Jul 21, 2002 1:56 am

MistyCaldwell wrote:Maybe it's because I am a girl, but when music is getting beautiful and sad or I see someone on screen crying...it gets to me.


-Hey! I'm a guy, and it gets to me too. It's not just girls who are affected by emotional music and scenes, it's just that most guys would never admit to it.

Me, I'm listening to Sarah Brightman as I type this. And I cried during FF7, dammit!!

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Postby UncleMilo » Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:03 am

Music is very important to me.

The three things that matter to me in an anime are
Story (which includes the characters themselves)
Music
Art/Animation

In that order

Some of the best musical moments for me...
(Just off the top of my head)

1) Yoko Kanno's piano piece when Guld and Isamu were fighting outside the hospital.

2) The song "Call Me" composed by Yoko Kanno that was used at the end of Episode 24 of Cowboy Bebop

3) Also from Cowboy Bebop... the music that concluded Episode 13, which I believe was called Space Lion... but I'd have to go back and check the title.

4) The use of Ray Charles at the end of Metropolis... what a great use of music...

5) The use of Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" throughout ep 24 of Evangelion

6) The performance of Country Roads in "Whispers of the Heart"

7) The song that plays while Kiki is looking at the painting in "Kiki's Delivery Service"

8) The music that plays when Makoto "shares" his memories with Ifurita in the last episode of the El Hazard OAV

9) In "Magnetic Rose" the first part of the movie "Memories", they play the final aria from Madam Butterfly when the two men first enter the structure they find. You already know just how bad things are going to get because they find their way in and descend while the crescendo (sp?) of the Aria plays at that moment... I had chills...

10) Aeris' theme in Final Fantasy VII. I know this a video game and not an anime... but I actually was emotionally involved with the story of FF VII because of the music.

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Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:15 am

Oh, hell yeah. FF7's soundtrack sucked me in and never let me go.

Which series is number 1 (Guld and Isamu) from?
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Postby RyanGlazner » Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:31 am

Just a note: I have seen bad music ruin a good series, but i've never seen good music save a bad series.
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Postby UncleMilo » Sun Jul 21, 2002 2:44 am

Guld and Isamu are from Macross Plus.

There is a 4 Epsisode OAV and a Movie

While I think you should see both... my preferred way of showing the series is show eps 1 - 3 of the OAV and the last 30 mins or so of the movie. The last part of the movie has all the footage from the 4th ep of the OAV plus about 10+ more mins of footage! There are also a lot of scenes I felt were missing from ep 4 in the OAV that were all there in the movie!

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Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Jul 21, 2002 8:18 am

K, thanks.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:41 am

Music... ahhhh. *Peaceful expression* I like music. Music can be such an amazing factor it's uncanny. A part can be extremely sad and (yeah I'll be honest) there are tears in my eyes, just waiting. But then the music kicks in full force and it's the catalyst for all emotions.

There was a death in an anime (not saying which one or who because someone spoiled an anime for me doing that!!) and the 'reality' of it didn't kick in until the music did. They were lying there in silence, the whole room making no noise whatsoever. I'm staring wide-eyed at the screen, not quite yet believing. The music kicks in dramatically and it was finalized. They were really gone. I had to pause it and restart it later that night because I just couldn't grasp anything beyond that. May sound like I'm exaggerating or just a wuss but I'm totally serious.

Soooo... on a lighter note. Has anyone heard the soundtrack for Berserk? It's the most amazing soundtrack I've ever heard!

And Sarah Brightman has an amazing voice. Second only to Maire and Eithne (sp?) Brennan. Well maybe some others but still...

And Final Fantasy VI was the first game soundtrack that really made an impact on me. Some of it was so beautiful and enchanting. Mainly the enchanting part though.
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Postby Rozard » Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:23 am

Chaos Angel wrote:
MistyCaldwell wrote:Maybe it's because I am a girl, but when music is getting beautiful and sad or I see someone on screen crying...it gets to me.


-Hey! I'm a guy, and it gets to me too. It's not just girls who are affected by emotional music and scenes, it's just that most guys would never admit to it.


It's because you're gay. JK!!! Music is very important to me, and thus influences my opinion on an anime series. Cowboy Bebop was a great series on it's own, but the music took it to a whole new level. I'm currently watching Hellsing, and I'm loving the music. It perfectly highlights emotions and characters. I love when an anime's music is diverse as well (Trigun). Not only does it sound cool, but music can be used as a story telling device. I don't think "Tank!" would have been appropriate at the end of Session 24 of Cowboyt Bebop, would it?
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Postby TheG-Man » Mon Jul 22, 2002 2:03 pm

Music is defnitly an important part of any serise. Heck i dont think any of us would relly be here if we didnt think music was important :) When i watch a serise that i like, i have to go find the soundtrack music afterwords. and in some case, im drawn to the sreise not becase of the stroy line wich can be so-soo, but becase of the music.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Mon Jul 22, 2002 6:27 pm

of course it is. anyone who doesnt think so should get flamed. :twisted:

anyway, the music is half of the whole video. why do you think they call it a MUSIC video? if the song just sucks i mmediately delete the video, no matter how good the series or the video quality.

many people take the sound for granted, which is sad but true. they only notice when it really stinks.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Mon Jul 22, 2002 6:54 pm

Music is very important, very very important. In fact, IMO, it can make or break a series. Sure Cowboy Bebop is great, but the soundtrack pushed it to my number one anime because it was so good. Someone mentioned Trigun's music being diverse, and I must agree. It's diverse but still good, and it fits Vash's nature as well.

Ko Oh Yoku wrote:if the song just sucks i immediately delete the video, no matter how good the series or the video quality.


Just one question: Who decides which songs 'suck'?
I've seen a lot of people dismiss a video because they thought a song sucked, when in fact they were dismissing the song because of the type of music it fell under, not the song itself. I just happen to think discarding an entire genre of music (especially based on only a few examples) is a waste. People need to broaden their tastes, not pigeonhole them.
I'm not trying to say you do that, I was just asking.
If you're saying "if the song sucks to me I immediately delete it..." then that's different, because it's your choice.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jul 22, 2002 8:41 pm

Who decides which songs 'suck'?

Well... that's entirely your opinion. I'd never dismiss a song because of its genre. It's not set in stone whether a song sucks or not, because someone is going to like it. And then, some songs are better if there is video set to it... or the other way around.

Unless you mean something else by your question...
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