Jasta85 wrote:Does sho get the guyver gigantic upgrade? I'd say that pretty much be a no contest at that point.
But even if he didn't have it, so long as sho fought smartly (which sadly he rarely does) then he could very easily take out Ed.
reasons sho can win:
1. Sho can fly: yes Ed an launch himself around or make a pillar of stone or something but full flight control trumps that. Actually the suite has gravity control which means Sho could keep Ed floored in addition to giving himself flight.
2. The bioboost suit is pretty much untouchable to ed: the bioboost suite has deflected bullets and all sorts of physical projectiles with ease, maybe Ed could make a really big cannon or something but that would take at least a little time during which sho could take out ed at range (see flying in reason number 1). Also, the suite is not made of any materials found on earth, so I don't believe ed could transmute it like normal elements that he is familiar with (arguable) but still, sho can fly so that should be moot.
3. Sho has a LOT of weapons, as in fricken lasers (moving at the speed of light) which he can fire off at Ed, and I don't care how fast Ed is, he can't dodge light. And the guyver suite is able to react to threats automatically, for example when someone fired a bullet at sho's friend the guyver shot the bullet out of the air with its head beam. One head beam to Ed's face would end the fight, period. He can't dodge light and the suite can track him easily. I'm not even going to go into the mega crusher, vibro blades, sonic/gravity cannon, the head beam is enough.
reasons why Ed would win:
Sho is an idiot as usual and doesn't use the suite's full potential and probably tries to beat Ed without killing him, thus losing (sho tends to lose a lot of his fights because of reasons liket his.
If it was Agito vrs Ed, Agito would win hands down. He doesn't mess around, he eliminates any threats quickly and intelligently.
Jasta85 wrote:A lot depends on how much each person knows about the other. If they know absolutely nothing about each other, then yes it could go either way. I'm going to go with Ed not having the philosopher's stone, it's not something he normally has, just his regular alchemic powers from seeing the gate of truth. the philosopher's stone is like ultimate tool in alchemy in the series (In fact I don't think Ed ever actually uses a philosopher stone, Alphonse uses it in a few fights but not Ed, let me know if I'm wrong.) If he was able to use it then Sho would arguably be able to use the guyver gigantic, as it does become a part of his regular arsenal later on the series, however I think Ed's alchemy vrs the base guyver suit makes the best match up.
You mentioned Ed didn't know what greed was made of, he actually did (chapters 28 and 29 of FMA) greed says he's made up of the same composition as normal humans, Ed deduced that he used carbon from his body to make his iron skin. Ed then says "so long as I know how it works my knowledge in alchemy will do the rest". Meaning so long as he knows what materials are used and how they are used he can then manipulate them.
In fact, in chapter 64 when he first fights the briggs soldiers, he tries to transmutate an automail arm of the bear guy but fails becuase he doesn't yet know what it's made of. This proves he needs to know what something is made of before he can work with it. No one knows what the guyver suites are made of (at least no one in the current series) and I don't think Ed would have much of a chance to study them.
After that it comes down to tactics. As I mentioned in my first post, Sho is not the best fighter, he usually gets bashed around a bunch before pulling out a new move. If he were actually competent enough to use the suites full potential then he could win quite quickly, however if he's his usual self then it's possible he could lose. Ed on the other hand is definitely smarter, but the guyver suite is so completely different that he would pretty much have no idea of how to deal with it (other than shooting lots of stuff at it and figuring out what it can do by observing it) so he would have no idea that the control metal is the vulnerable part of the suite. A lucky shot could possibly hit and destroy the control metal but that's just leaving everything to chance.
The guyver suite offers the best advantage in a fight, as it could potentially take out its target in less than a second (if it's target is just a human, which Ed is). However, a weapon is only as good as it's wielder, which is where Sho falls short. Ed is the smarter one so given enough time he might be able to figure out a way to take down the guyver, but that would depend on Sho being dumb enough to give him that opportunity. So there's no definite answer.
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