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Importing Vegas Video Wall Project Into Main AMV- Quality?

Postby Chaobunny12 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:20 pm

Okay that was a weird title, but it's kind of hard to explain.

I created a 25 layer video wall that lasts about three seconds in one Vegas project. My default video size for my DVD rips and projects is 720x480 and the quality is really nice. All of the video wall clips appear to have good quality in the separate project. But when I import that project into my main AMV, the quality of the individual clips on the video wall is ruined. My intention was to do a pan over all the video clips in the wall, but that won't work now because of the quality. It's not just zoomed in, I mean the overall normal view quality is cut in half. I tried setting the video wall project setting to a really high resolution, but that doesn't help if my main AMV is still 720x480.

I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't I can post screencaps to show what I mean.

What I'm trying to accomplish is a pan over a bunch of scenes on the video wall and then zoom out, but for them to stay in high quality. How would I do that?
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Postby LivingFlame » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:50 pm

Did you try making the resolution for the Video Wall project 3600x2400? I'm assuming your 25 layers are in a 5x5 grid, so if they are each bumped up next to each other, the physical resolution should come out to 3600x2400 (720*5 x 480*5).
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Postby Chaobunny12 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:12 pm

Unfortunately the max size Vegas will let me make any project is 2048x2048, but I'll try increasing the size as much as I can.

I'm starting to think I might just need something fancy like AE if I want to get the effect I'm aiming for, because the high resolution I tried yesterday didn't work that well.
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Postby post-it » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:20 pm

.. post it; the wall & a box showing where it is going across -- I'm not grasping your
concept ! :?
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Postby Chaobunny12 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:24 pm

Video wall project:
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In the AMV project:
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(It's actually a bit better with this with the video wall project at a higher resolution, but Vegas won't let me make the resolution big enough to handle all of the clips at full size.

What I'm trying to do:
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I want to be able to zoom in on each clips in full quality, but the most I can zoom in on without ruining the quality is a 3x3 square of clips. At the moment it seems I can only pan over the video wall in this manner.
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Postby AaronAMV » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:38 pm

:/

Have you tried After Effects? It's fairly basic to do something like that.
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Postby Chaobunny12 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:42 pm

The bigger question is how I could afford AE. :?

That's why I'm trying to do it in Vegas. I know what AE can do. But I'm a high school student without a job that can't get all that fancy stuff.
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Postby AaronAMV » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:43 pm

What about student tuition?

And try downloading the trial of AE just for this project?
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Postby Chaobunny12 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:47 pm

I can try the trial, but I hate getting fond of software I can't have. I know AE has this whole think with a video wall and I want it, but I can't have it. Even with a student discount I doubt I could afford it. For now, Vegas Pro was my big expense. I felt like the ultimate nerd spending $130 on a video editing program. What do kids buy these days with that kind of money, clothes or something...? :/

Either way, I suppose I'll have to make due with the panning over 3x3 grids for now. It still creates a decent effect, if not exactly what I wanted.
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Postby AaronAMV » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:52 pm

Chaobunny12 wrote:What do kids buy these days with that kind of money, clothes or something...? :/


Good question... I wish I knew the answer to it.

If 999.99 is out of your price range... Would you consider 649.59? If you're not making the video wall move other than you manual cropping it... You could build a wall in Photoshop and then import a .png.

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-C ... 827&sr=8-2
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Postby Chaobunny12 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:18 pm

I don't have that kind of money. In general I'm not buying software over $200.

I'm using a free plugin, Davitools Videowall, to help me format the video wall, which saves me a little bit of time. It saves me from having to do all the formatting and cropping, at least, although I do need to input which channel the video sources are coming from.

I just made this thread to see if anyone has pulled this off with Vegas before. I'm testing the limits of the program xD
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Postby AaronAMV » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:20 pm

Hm... I see...

Sorry I couldn't help. >.<
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Postby Krisqo » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:30 pm

I just noticed in the pic of the bad clips that the preview resolution is set to Half. Did you try setting that to full?
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Postby Vivaldi » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:32 pm

Dr. AaronAMV wrote:
Chaobunny12 wrote:What do kids buy these days with that kind of money, clothes or something...? :/


Good question... I wish I knew the answer to it.

If 999.99 is out of your price range... Would you consider 649.59? If you're not making the video wall move other than you manual cropping it... You could build a wall in Photoshop and then import a .png.

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-C ... 827&sr=8-2

Get GIMP instead, it's free, and it's so close to being as good as photoshop it's not even funny.
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Postby LivingFlame » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:17 am

AE student pricing is about $350, if you want to save for that in the future.

Anyway, I was going to say the same thing Krisqo said; the preview isn't set to full quality in the second pic. See if it looks any better if you change that. And outside of that, shouldn't the video wall project's resolution be cranked way up beyond 720x480? (3600x2400, or as close as you can get to it.) Because the first pic says it's still 720x480.
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