RonnieDaking wrote:i like my anime like I like my women, from japan and speaking english
mirkosp wrote:Actually, I think that at least a couple videos of the Re-Evo have quite a few chances at winning something, imho, or at the very least making the finals. I know I saw a lot of cool vids from you guys, that's why I'm saying it.
Also, I think Re-Evo is pretty well known by now on the org too, anyway.
simofc90 wrote:that's my opinion too and that's why for me this contest needs judges + the vote of viewers (as second choice)... like a jca fusion with vca...
dwchang wrote:godix wrote:LittleAtari wrote:Also, I'm sick of people complaining about circle jerks. Re-Evo is like 20 editors. 20 votes will not make a video win a category. As for the Russians, it wasnt a problem last year. No one cry 'ZOMG CIRCLE JERK' because the VCAs involves the entire site, not just the forums. Let's say the biggest circle jerk is 50 people. That still isnt enough to win a category.
No, but circle jerks are enough to get into the finals. For example, I've been a finalist for most helpful for like the last four or five years now. So circle jerks can get a video rather far, far enough to get attention and so on while other, perhaps more deserving, vids get ignored.
Godix is 100% correct. It doesn't take many votes to make the finals so this is definitely a (minor) problem. For me the problem exists in that deserving videos are ignored due to this. Casual viewers will assume what is in the finals is "the best" when in reality it usually not the case.
That said, Godix is also correct in that the entire contest is one circle jerk within our community so meh.
Edit: It is still pretty hilarious how far people will go for an online contest though and also sad that folks are unable to see past their friends or assume their friends make the best things and thus are blind to other good work. Oh well.
Animated wrote:Last year every Russian editor suggested amvs that came from other Russian editors. This year everyone in Re-evolution studios is suggesting amvs of... Re-evolution studios as the best of each category, plus Chiikaboom.
Guess who will continue this circle of life the next year and win some cookies!
bladedude101 wrote:simofc90 wrote:that's my opinion too and that's why for me this contest needs judges + the vote of viewers (as second choice)... like a jca fusion with vca...
Doesn't that ruin the whole point of a VCA? I mean, the judges at Con's don't have say when the viewers vote on the viewer choice videos there for a reason as well. VCA is a chance for videos to be voted on for personal taste, popularity, and biasm. There are plenty of other contests that demand critical judging of all entries in a proper way. I mean, this would be like a con with 1,000's of videos, so it would be so hard to judge anyway. So many people haven't seen all the videos and I think the videos that win are probably already popular enough. If you want your video to have attention you need to get it before the VCA, VCA wont just magically make it appear.
bladedude101 wrote:Who said we can't see past "our friends." This is a VCA. This is to post for the videos that you as a viewer had fun with and you as a viewer thought was worth getting up top. Cons are for videos to go solely off the actual editing, this is a chance for us to support our friends and videos we thought deserved more light than they got. As viewer choice awards, you're just as hypocritical by laughing at our choices because the only reason you are is because it's not your choices and you'd rather us agree with you.
dwchang wrote:bladedude101 wrote:Who said we can't see past "our friends." This is a VCA. This is to post for the videos that you as a viewer had fun with and you as a viewer thought was worth getting up top. Cons are for videos to go solely off the actual editing, this is a chance for us to support our friends and videos we thought deserved more light than they got. As viewer choice awards, you're just as hypocritical by laughing at our choices because the only reason you are is because it's not your choices and you'd rather us agree with you.
I'm not entirely sure what in my post warranted such a vehement reply since I did not single anyone out, but OK. If you'd like to create a drama-fest by all means. Godix and myself are commenting on the general problems with the VCA and both he and I did not name names. You seem to be rather sensitive on the issue though since you reply with such aggression.
If anything it is a bit arrogant to assume that we are talking about you. Frankly I don't watch AMVs any more and my opinions of the VCA have been that way since at least 2005 and later. In short, this isn't really about you (at least to me) so feel free to back off. I guess reading the other replies I guess some of the hate is directed towards you and your group, but you're mistaken if you think I am doing the same. I've had problems with the VCAs for quite some time as have a number of editors.
Edit: I did want to add that it is funny that year after year we have a bunch of drama regarding the VCAs. Glad to do my part
bladedude101 wrote:Considering your timing of reply and the topic at hand, one could only not assume you were being specific to the Re-Evolution thing.
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