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newbie searching [for] help with amv's

Postby sakura_n_li » Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:42 pm

i want people to tell me what is so wrong with my amv''s? i can't do ane sprecial effects with my movie maker or can i can some help plz plz plz plz im begging you! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :P :P :P :P 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Postby Sporkmaster » Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:48 pm

Have you talked to Arigatomyna yet?
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Postby turboneko » Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:50 pm

This should probably go into Opinion Exchange but anyway... receiving feedback is hard, especially if it's tricky to get your videos (was it you the one with the yahoo briefcase?). People simply won't bother unless they really want to watch your AMV.

Suggestions:

1) Donate to the .ORG, so you'll get the ability to upload your AMVs on the local server

2) Post in the Opinion Exchange... give opinions and (hopefully) you'll receive them :P

Hope this helps ;)
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Postby sakura_n_li » Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:55 pm

thanx it does help but going into yahoo is so easy
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Postby EarthCurrent » Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:10 pm

Has the use of the English language truly devolved that much? :?
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Postby Sporkmaster » Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:44 pm

but going into yahoo is so easy


Posting them in Yahoo may be easy, but easy to get them it is not.

My offer still stand, I can put one of your vidoes on my server to help you get ops.
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Postby dokool » Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:06 pm

EarthCurrent wrote:Has the use of the English language truly devolved that much? :?


In case you don't have the stomach to go to her website, her email address is nadine_oliver@hotmail.com. I think if all of us send her emails telling her to learn how to speak proper English or get off the forums...

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Postby Arigatomina » Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:46 pm

You people should be english majors. ^_^;;

As for getting effects with wmm, if you don't have windows xp there's only one way to manage that. Right now the 2.0 version is only a beta for xp, but if you download the 2.0 exe file, and the effects folder, etc you can run them on your computer. Let me know and I'll see if I can zip a package of them up for you and transfer it via aim. Just keep in mind that it'll be a little dangerous since they're not properly made for computers besides xp. But really, I don't think it will matter much. And if you have any trouble producing your video (compression makes a *huge* difference with 2.0, and the more detailed the video is the less chance you have of producing it the normal way), just email me and I'll give you the little tricks to get around that. ^_^
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Postby Sporkmaster » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:15 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:You people should be english majors. ^_^;;

As for getting effects with wmm, if you don't have windows xp there's only one way to manage that. Right now the 2.0 version is only a beta for xp, but if you download the 2.0 exe file, and the effects folder, etc you can run them on your computer. Let me know and I'll see if I can zip a package of them up for you and transfer it via aim. Just keep in mind that it'll be a little dangerous since they're not properly made for computers besides xp. But really, I don't think it will matter much. And if you have any trouble producing your video (compression makes a *huge* difference with 2.0, and the more detailed the video is the less chance you have of producing it the normal way), just email me and I'll give you the little tricks to get around that. ^_^


I thought you had XP. I was not aware that there was a Windows Movie Maker for any other OS. Also about the WMM 2.0, I have it it is fairly stable. The effects are basic, but I only use AMM to make the clips and assemble them in Vegas. This is becuase Vegas assumes that you have made all the clips you want.
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Postby Arigatomina » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:31 pm

Yeah, I have xp, but I don't think she does.

As for 2.0 - the problem only happens when you have a long timeline with lots of small clips and effects. Once you get so much information in the timeline (especially fast very short cuts and lots of fades/etc), you can't produce it in wmv format. There's just too much information there. Maybe, if you have more than 23gigs free on your computer you can do it, but with 22.8 (like my last vid) free on your harddrive it can't produce the video. You have to cut the clips up and produce them separately (usually in 40 sec sections if the timeline is very complicated - anything over that won't produce). And then, if you have wmm 1.0 you can import that and produce it to avi - you *may* be able to send it was wmv, but depending on the codecs you used, you'll get lines in the footage in wmv. The best bet is to send it out as avi and convert *that* to mpg. So, yeah, lots of bugs. There are a few other ways I've found to get around the problem, but as long as you're doing a long complicated timeline you probably won't be able to produce it - and the more clips and effects you use, the shorter the vid has to be for you to save the movie the normal way. ^_^;;;;
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Postby Sporkmaster » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:54 pm

I think that is the reason that for having different thoughts about it. I have not attempted to use its other features and I have 18 gigs free at the moment as well. But as for cutting the clips I also put used the AVI format where a half second clips is three Megs. So you do not have any other program that can assemble these clips besides WMM?
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Postby genestarwind21122 » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:56 pm

Okay this what I use and for the most part I would say I'm making desent videos right now. If you have $40 go to best buys and buy yourself MGI video wave 4. This progam has effects where you can create ripples, black and white scenes and add in background and much more. It gives you a capture device that you plug into your USB port and then you can use a dvd player, vcr or ps2 to use to capture your images. It is pretty easy to use. Then once you produce the video you open up a new file and take the produced video and drag it up to the production strip then you go to add sound and drag over the audio you want. It will explain it in more detail. But yeah it is pretty easy to use and it isn't expense and you can create good videos with it.
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Postby Arigatomina » Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:25 pm

Sporkmaster wrote:I think that is the reason that for having different thoughts about it. I have not attempted to use its other features and I have 18 gigs free at the moment as well. But as for cutting the clips I also put used the AVI format where a half second clips is three Megs. So you do not have any other program that can assemble these clips besides WMM?


Well, I've had problems with codecs in general (using VirtualDub), but if I don't want to use the two wmm method, I can import the clips into Showbiz. The only problem is that Showbiz highly inflates the size of mpg files. And an avi file created by Showbiz cannot be converted to mpg using normal methods. I use Showbiz as a last resort (since there's a limit to the number of avi clips you can use - 72, if I remember correctly). You *can* produce a long complicated timeline in wmm 2.0 as a very big avi file - but the clip speed will be very askew - if you import that into Showbiz you have to edit the clips to get the timing back in place, and the preview in that movie maker is nasty so you get a lot of extra frames popping up all over the place - and then the output size of the mpg file is far too large. And any wmv file you make (depending on the codecs used) will have the same lines you got from wmm when using wmv. The real problem is the codecs you use to compress your original clips - if you use a very old windows codec wmm loves it and it'll produce without much problem. ^_^ But that codec is not compatible with any mpg converter I've found, and the compression quality is horrible. Hufyuv gives some nice output, but you have to cut the clips into 15 sec sections instead of 35-40, and the footage blurs badly once you convert to mpg.

But none of this really matters. ^_^ You shouldn't use windows movie maker to begin wth - that's what premier is for. ^_^;; Call me archaic, but between the special effects in Showbiz, and the ones in wmm 2.0, you can do anything other movie makers allow (except good overlays), so other than the trouble with production, I don't mind working with what came on my computer.
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