I love you guys

This forum is for shameless promotion and self-promotion of videos for the VCA awards. Please be sure to promote other videos in addition to your own. This is a temporary forum and will be removed when the contest is concluded.

Postby angelx03 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:47 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:
pat_hulse wrote:Someone explain to me how Dewelopers was nominated for Video of the Year, but Undiscovered Countries wasn't?


Ileia should field this one.


dewelopers?

I tried....:|
ImageImage
Image
User avatar
angelx03
 
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Location: In school, Rochester NY mainly RIT; in home, Tampa, FL

Postby Ileia » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:53 pm

Because everyone loves this company.
User avatar
Ileia
CornDog Whisperer
 
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: On teh Z-drive, CornDog
Status: ....to completion

Postby Corran » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:16 pm

pat_hulse wrote:Someone explain to me how Dewelopers was nominated for Video of the Year, but Undiscovered Countries wasn't?


Every year, with the exception of a few truly awesome videos, it is pretty much ends up being a popularity contest... First a popularity contest based on the editors, and later based on the sources they used in their videos. Most of the beginning nominations are decided by the forum community because they see their friends and go "OMG Nominate!" *click* *click* *click* whereas voting in the later stages starts to mirror the majority of the org populous and the anime fandom in general.

Not only that but... people do not read worth a damn. <strike>The World Moved On</strike> On My Earth for Best No Effects... WTF people. I can sort of blame brad for not checking the effects box, but just because the video is able to be voted on does not mean that it fits the category. -_-
Last edited by Corran on Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Corran
 
Joined: 14 Oct 2002

Postby Arigatomina » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:35 pm

pat_hulse wrote:Someone explain to me how Dewelopers was nominated for Video of the Year, but Undiscovered Countries wasn't?

More people have seen Dewelopers and they nominate what they've seen. Sock-puppet accounts not included.

I nominated Dewelopers for a lot because for a lot of the categories it was the only video I'd seen. Half the videos I was expecting to nominate weren't there because the creators weren't participating. I nominated a few unknown vids I thought were worthy, but they were unknown, so I knew they'd have no chance of making it in.

-Good for Nothing- wrote:the downfall of the majority in the amv community becomes quite apparent in this, even more than in the last year's vca's.

Ah, you can't blame people for missing out on the unwatched gems. I surfed the recs forum for weeks during the nomination stage - there were so many vids being pimped there's no way I could have watched them all, let alone the gems that weren't being pimped. It's just not possible to sort through a thousand videos and pick the best ones to nominate.

The nomination stage is all about well-known vids. There's no way you can watch all the competition and pick the best, so you go with the ones you saw. It's this and the next round that have the slightest chance of being "legit". Theoretically you could download all the vids in each category and pick a favorite. So next round you can complain that people only voted for the videos they'd seen.

The vcas have always been a popularity contest. Only popular vids are nominated. After that you download those popular vids (making them even more widly seen) and pick your favorite till you get the most popular vid in each category. It's not the downfall of community because the contest never claimed to be anything but what it is - a way to pit the most popular vids on the site against each other and see which one has the biggest fanbase.

/subject change

I'm curious about the stacked results. Will those vids be taken off the lists and replaced with the next runners up, or left on there but quietly prevented from taking any awards? I'd rather have the runner ups - one more chance at variety.

I still wish there were a one-category-per-vid limit. The best thing about the vcas is downloading the nominated videos. There's always too many duplicates and not enough variety. Takes the fun out of it. :?
User avatar
Arigatomina
 
Joined: 03 Apr 2003

Postby Kitsuner » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:56 pm

Corran wrote:Not only that but... people do not read worth a damn. The World Moved On for Best No Effects... WTF people. I can sort of blame brad for not checking the effects box, but just because the video is able to be voted on does not mean that it fits the category. -_-

I voted Dewelopers for every video category except Best First and Best MEP. Image
OtakuGray wrote:Sometimes anime can branch out to a younger audience and this is one of those times where you wish children would just go die.
Stirspeare wrote:<Stirspeare> Lopez: Vanquish my virginity and flood me with kit. ["Ladies..."]
User avatar
Kitsuner
Maximum Hotness
 
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Status: Top Breeder

Postby Szwagier » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:18 pm

Corran wrote:Not only that but... people do not read worth a damn. On My Earth for Best No Effects... WTF people. I can sort of blame brad for not checking the effects box, but just because the video is able to be voted on does not mean that it fits the category. -_-


fixed
ImageImageImage
User avatar
Szwagier
 
Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Location: Poland

Postby godix » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:31 pm

-Good for Nothing- wrote:the downfall of the majority in the amv community becomes quite apparent in this, even more than in the last year's vca's.

so I was right after all |:

yeah, whatever...

~Jannis

Someone takes this shit way too seriously. Treat this as the joke it is, the same as any other popularity contest.
Image
User avatar
godix
a disturbed member
 
Joined: 03 Aug 2002

Postby AMV_4000 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:42 pm

Ileia wrote:Because everyone loves this company.


dont you mean misery loves company?

and undiscovered countries didnt mention everyones name in it, so it wasnt up to par with dewelopers...


or to simplify it....
Mugatu wrote:YOUR A MONKEY DERICK, DANCE MONKEY!
and well were dancing!
User avatar
AMV_4000
 
Joined: 10 Apr 2002
Location: USA

Postby Fall_Child42 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:59 pm

I love you guys too.

;)
Image
User avatar
Fall_Child42
has a rock
 
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Location: Jurassic Park
Status: Veloci-tossin' to the max!

Postby Otohiko » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:07 pm

I have four words for you:

DEMOCRACY
FANBOYISM
CIRCLEJERK
DEWELOPERS
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby Fall_Child42 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:15 pm

Actually Speaking of this, Considering the type of videos i make...

When in the seven layers of hell did I become popular? And how come noone told me?

on a side note.

I commend you people for nominating Schism in two categories. (It deserves to win SOMETHING :O )
Image
User avatar
Fall_Child42
has a rock
 
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Location: Jurassic Park
Status: Veloci-tossin' to the max!

Postby Scintilla » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:19 pm

Otohiko wrote:CIRCLEJERK

Please. How many thousands of members do we have participating in the VCAs every year who don't use the forum, don't use the AOLIM Buddy Chat, don't use the IRC room, and have never met IRL any of the creators of the videos they vote for?
ImageImage
:pizza: :pizza: Image :pizza: :pizza:
User avatar
Scintilla
(for EXTREME)
 
Joined: 31 Mar 2003
Location: New Jersey
Status: Quo

Postby Otohiko » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:46 pm

Scintilla wrote:
Otohiko wrote:CIRCLEJERK

Please. How many thousands of members do we have participating in the VCAs every year who don't use the forum, don't use the AOLIM Buddy Chat, don't use the IRC room, and have never met IRL any of the creators of the videos they vote for?


I would love to see the stats, but I'm personally rather convinced the numbers on the nomination stage are much smaller than we assume. I venture to say that a fairly small circle of consistent votes is enough to tip the scales in favour of that or other video. Likewise, I don't think anyone can argue that the .org scene is neutral and impartial - I'm as guilty as anyone else of being with the scene as anyone else. But it does explain many surprising or unreasonable choices.

I don't, by the way, think that videos that get nominated this way are bad or anything. But FANBOYISM and CIRCLEJERK certainly account for a large number of nomination 'surprises'.
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby JudgeHolden » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:59 pm

And then there are the darkhorses .. the wild cards .... the outsiders ..... :roll:
ImageImageImageImage
User avatar
JudgeHolden
 
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Location: The great white north (Minneapolis)
Status: Looking at you through your window!

Postby Otohiko » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:24 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:And then there are the darkhorses .. the wild cards .... the outsiders ..... :roll:


Or circlejerks we just have no idea about :P

(a number of AKROSS videos keep getting through over the years in no little part thanks to an active and populated Russian AMVing community that is not very vocal on the .org)
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

PreviousNext

Return to VCA Shameless Promotions 2007

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest