Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Kitsuner » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:04 pm

Zarxrax wrote:I have a lot of my money in gold. I usually go with coins because they are pretty, even though there is a bit of an extra markup on them.

It's also important to know how to plant a garden, and get REAL seeds for them (a lot of the seeds on the market today are genetically modified so that the resulting plants wont have any seeds in them). But then if the shit hits the fan, you are definitely going to need some guns to protect your crops.

Zarx makes a good point. We need to grow some plants, because we don't want zombies on our lawn.
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby guy07 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:53 pm

Moving to Canada won't save you. A large portion of our economy is reliant on the American economy. I keep wishing we'd try to be more self-sustained but at this point if the US goes under, I don't see things going well here at all.
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:03 pm

guy07 wrote:if the US goes under, I don't see things going well here at all.


That's pretty much true of every country in the world that actively trades with us, and vice-versa. If China/India/Canada/Mexico/ect were to collapse and fuck up, the whole world would feel that pain in some form or another.

But this is a good thing.

With countries around the world having vested interests in us [and the large debts we owe them], they're not only less likely to attack us, but also more likely to support our economy. This is pretty much the same of any country in any sort of trade alliance like NAFTA, EU, and SAFTA.

I keep wishing we'd try to be more self-sustained but at this point


Any country that tries to do this isolationist self-sustaining market will not only fail, but fail hard core [eventually]. That or prices will be so ridiculously high that poverty will be pretty much widespread. Just look at the middle eastern countries where trade/loans is not only illegal, but it's against their religious beliefs. That's what isolationist countries look like [minus the sand, ect..] There's mathematics and economics 101 that proves this without a doubt, I'm just too lazy to go open my class notes that far back.
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby ZephyrStar » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:29 pm

dwchang wrote:At the same time, it's good to have some money somewhere as a rainy day fund. I've had one since I graduated college and had a job. My mom recommended it and it's a nice little safety net in case things do go terrible. It's not difficult either. Just save ~3 months worth of living expenses gradually or better yet, spend frugally until you have it saved up. It's nice to know I have something and I recommend all new graduates or newly employed folks to do the same.


Yes. This saved my ass when I got unexpectedly laid off. (And I say unexpectedly, but I was paying attention to the signs in the office, economy, etc, and pretty much saved every dollar I could for about 6 months)
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby guy07 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:23 pm

So when do the zombies start taking over? I got a really nice hatchet i wanted to put to good use...
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:25 pm

guy07 wrote:Moving to Canada won't save you. A large portion of our economy is reliant on the American economy. I keep wishing we'd try to be more self-sustained but at this point if the US goes under, I don't see things going well here at all.


That is only partially true though... The advantage Canada has is we have a lot of natural resources everyone want or will eventually want and pay for.

The mistake we make is we don’t' safe guard them enough and end up "giving them" by bad government management.

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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:53 pm

The key to surviving anything economically is money management. Know how much money you have and what it's doing. That's it.
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Niotex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:53 pm

Silly Americans.
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:59 am

Economic Crisis = Katie and John can afford to buy a house?
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Pwolf » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:16 pm

Niotex wrote:Silly Americans.


you say that now, but wait until Germany invades and no one is there to help you :P
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby ZephyrStar » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:52 pm

Pwolf wrote:
Niotex wrote:Silly Americans.


you say that now, but wait until Germany invades and no one is there to help you :P


help you.... drink all the beer with Germany? \o/
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby guy07 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:15 pm

I didn't mean we become the next North Korea, but that we should try growing more of own food for ourselves, manufacture more of our own stuff, things like that. People over here are freaking out because of the new Buy American policies, but if they did the same thing they could do lots of good. Save travel time, help local farmers who are pretty near broke, give off less emissions from shorter travel distances, things like that. We can still export wood, grain, rocks and stuff like that because we have excess amounts of it, companies should just think more of how it affects the country they live in, rather than just seeing who can sell the product cheaper. :roll:
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:30 pm

guy07 wrote:companies should just think more of how it affects the country they live in, rather than just seeing who can sell the product cheaper. :roll:


But it's because of the fact that other nations sell products cheaper and that countries outsource labor and resources that countries can make money in the first place.

It's all about competitive advantage over absolute advantage.

Let's say that Country A hasa competitive advantage AND an absolute advantage in selling toliet paper. This means they can produce toiliet paper at a cheaper cost and produce more of them in terms of producing . They can also produce pepperoni, but don't have a competiive advantage.

Country B has competitive advantage and absolute advantage in selling pepperoni and no advantage in selling toliet paper.

If these two countries were to trade toliet paper for pepperoni, both nations would be better off, because they can spend more time producing more and cheaper goods in order to collect goodes they would otherwise spend a fortune on making, bringing cheaper goods to the consumer and profit to the producers..

So what does this mean for the industries in country a producing pepperoni, and country b producing toliet paper? Well, they're pretty much shit outta luck except for nationalists who support them, but that's how economics work for the most part.

Economics =/= Happy Ending for Everyone
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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby JudgeHolden » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:38 pm

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Re: Beo's Guide to Surviving the Collapse of the US Economy

Postby Knowname » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:22 pm

That's a proposition I can stand behind ^_^
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