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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Pwolf » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:32 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyposensitization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_allergy

Read up ^ . Like I said, I used to be really allergic to cats until I started being around them more... It's not necessarily cruel to bath a cat every week either. Most cats are fine with water, if you're gentle enough then they wont put up a fight. It's the sudden sensation of the water that freaks them out. Obviously taking in a cat when you have a high intolerance of the allergy is a bad idea for the owner but if you take steps to lessen the effects then owning a cat isn't impossible and your tolerances will grow. Granted, as chang said, some of that is genetic so you may not grow any immunity in which case, you can always get a hypoallergenic cat :P
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Pwolf » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:43 am

PS: more pix >.>

My great Aunt & Uncle's pets - my animals away from home:

Lucy - taken tonight while I was over there for dinner... laser eyes o.o
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Sunny - old picture. This was when she had surgery on her leg and had to be put in the cage at night :(
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:16 pm

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best kind. 8-)
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby dwchang » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:29 am

Pwolf wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyposensitization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_allergy

Read up ^


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Scott you're talking to someone who had Immunotherapy for like 5 years and got allergy shots. It helps A LOT, but it doesn't make you completely immune to allergies. They give you progressively larger doses of allergens to make your system adapt to it, but you will never be completely immune (doctor's words not mine). Basically if I go say and mow the lawn I still get a reaction, but not as bad as it used to be. I can also go around outside without having to take any Allegra or anything. I used to have to take it daily, hence why I got shots. The thought of taking a pill every day for the rest of the day was just bleh.

Also maybe you should read the articles too :P.

Finally, some allergy sufferers find relief in periodic injection therapy designed to stimulate the body's natural immune responses to the cat allergen. Although this is not usually 100% successful, it can reduce reactions to tolerable levels for many individuals


That's me so I agree with you there. However:

Many people originally allergic to cats have, over time, become "immune" to allergic symptoms from their own cats; however, they may still have allergic reactions, of varying intensity, to other cats. This is not reliable when deciding to get a cat as a pet, as allergy may become worse, not better, with time.


Again, I don't doubt shots lessen allergic reactions since I'm living proof, but completely immune is not going to happen. Folks like me who got shots which were inconvenient for a few years did it so it'd be better later on in life and it is. I'm not doubting that claim. I'm doubting this complete immunity claim because I've done the therapy you're referring to and I'm not completely immune to anything I was previous allergic to. If I have a high dose of an allergen, my body will still react. It's in my DNA (my father has nearly the same allergies). Like it'd be dumb for me to put my face in a cat and rub it around.

In all honesty, and I'm completely speculating, I think folks who say they're now completely immune to their cats might be doing something psychologically they're not aware of. The mind is a pretty good placebo and I wouldn't be surprised if folks like their cats so much or live with them so long that they learn to cope with the reactions or their mind convinces their body that they're OK. It's not an unheard of thing.

However, I for one, even after 5+ years of shots, still get reactions around cats, pollens, grasses, etc. so it goes without saying I'll never own a cat :P.

Awesome...Sunny the fat dog. :up:

Edit: I also just re-read your post and you said tolerance not immunity (the wikipedia article however said that immunity claim). I 100% agree with you on the tolerance claim. The shots have done wonders for me and I almost never have to take medication now. I used to take one every day or just going outside would be unbearable (I'm allergic to literally EVERY tree, grass, pollen in America -____________________-). Anyway looks like we agree on tolerance so my post was probably unnecessary. BLEH.
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Pwolf » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:49 pm

dwchang wrote:Edit: I also just re-read your post and you said tolerance not immunity (the wikipedia article however said that immunity claim). I 100% agree with you on the tolerance claim. The shots have done wonders for me and I almost never have to take medication now. I used to take one every day or just going outside would be unbearable (I'm allergic to literally EVERY tree, grass, pollen in America -____________________-). Anyway looks like we agree on tolerance so my post was probably unnecessary. BLEH.


Yea, even i'm not even 100% immune but my tolerance is high enough that I can deal with it. Actually, even spending one night a week at my Aunt's house playing with her cat, I came home Sunday night stuffed up and my eyes were crazy itchy -_-
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby meleechampion » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:33 pm

Cats are lame. Doesn't matter that I'm DEATHLY allergic... like... I COULD DIE... I just don't like cats.

I am measurably less allergic to dogs. Dogs are way better than cats.

Alas, I have no current companions. Not that I need any. I blame my girlfriend's dog for our relationship issues anyway, haha. =D
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Ileia » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:59 pm

meleechampion wrote:I blame my girlfriend's dog for our relationship issues anyway, haha. =D


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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Kitsuner » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:36 am

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Here's our Precious, giving my dad lots of licking:
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And here's Caddie, the oldest of the three, and the most recent addition to our house (though we've had her for a few years now):
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:19 am



That looks like... A sad face I'd expect on LOL Cats meme things...

Soooo. Cute.... xD
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Angelyco » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:28 am

Oh god, I'm going to clog this thread up badly with pictures when I get home tonight. Our current zoo: 11 cats (4 permanent boys, 1 stray female we took in while pregnant, who now has 6 kittens), 3 mice, 2 gerbils, 2 hamsters, and 1 fish.

I've done the 5 years of allergy shots (for dogs, dust, mold, and oak trees) and my allergies barely bother me anymore. I'll sneeze a couple times and that's it. Dogs don't bother me at all anymore.

My husband is allergic to cats. When I lived in a fully carpeted apartment, his allergies drove him nuts, but now that we have hardwood floors, even 11 cats don't bother him much.
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Kitsuner » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:37 pm

Angelyco wrote:4 permanent boys

The rest get sex changes?
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Angelyco » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:04 pm

Kitsuner wrote:
Angelyco wrote:4 permanent boys

The rest get sex changes?

:rofl: I guess that doesn't make sense without some explanation. We rescue stray cats and take cats from people who find strays. We clean them up, give them flea/ear mite/dewormer meds, socialize them if needed or possible, try to find homes for them, and if we can't, I work with a rescue group who will take them. So we have 4 boy cats that are our pets, any cats besides them are just transitory. The mama cat and her 6 babies won't be staying with us.

...Anyone in the NY area want a kitten? :D
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Pwolf » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:14 pm

Two pictures of Isabel i took way back in high school. The second one is probably my favorite photograph I've taken of her.

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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby ZephyrStar » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:57 pm

I have the rediculous urge to go out and aquire two cats.
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Re: AMVERS' Companions!

Postby Angelyco » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:19 pm

ZephyrStar wrote:I have the rediculous urge to go out and aquire two cats.

I have 6 kittens right now that need homes...want some? :)
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