Patriotism! ... and health care ...?

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Patriotism! ... and health care ...?

Postby guy07 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:04 pm

Lets face it, most of us are happy to live in the country that we do. And hell, why not? We're all still alive, right? But when it gets to a point when you block out the rest of the world and only focus on your own country, is that really healthy? Do most of us not do that right now? Why bother putting our nations flags everywhere when we know what country we're in.
It's late and I'm really tired, so I'm just going to ask this: Are you patriotic? If so, how patriotic are you?
Feel free to post any ideas related to plus sides or minus sides of patriotism because I'm too tired. Maybe I'll edit this tomorrow ... lol.


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Re: Patriotism!

Postby meleechampion » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:27 am

America! Fuck Yeah!

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Re: Patriotism!

Postby Athena » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:09 am

USA
USA
USA

...also I live in Japan.

...also also I fly an American flag outside of my apartment.
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:12 am

Wave that flag harder citizen! Harder!!!
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby Otohiko » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:04 am

I don't know anything about patriotism; I don't consider myself patriotic. What I do know about is nationalism, and nationalism = worst shit evar.
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby Ishbalan » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:23 am

This about summarizes my view of the beloved homeland.

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Re: Patriotism!

Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:43 am

Otohiko wrote:I don't know anything about patriotism; I don't consider myself patriotic. What I do know about is nationalism, and nationalism = worst shit evar.

That's what I'd expect from a filthy stinking communist.

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Re: Patriotism!

Postby mirkosp » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:52 am

Ishbalan wrote:This about summarizes my view of the beloved homeland.

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Good thing I'm Italian. And Europe in general isn't in that condition.
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:05 am

AMERICA.... :up:
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby guy07 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am

Ishbalan wrote:This about summarizes my view of the beloved homeland.

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That's actually a good example of what I'm talking about. People get so obsessed with their country and start thinking about how great it is, next thing you know they are claiming perfection and anybody who tries to change anything is a "filthy stinking communist."

And the next person that chants "U.S.A." get to see me go 1812 on your ass. :twisted:
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby Kitsuner » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:03 am

guy07 wrote:
Ishbalan wrote:This about summarizes my view of the beloved homeland.

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That's actually a good example of what I'm talking about. People get so obsessed with their country and start thinking about how great it is, next thing you know they are claiming perfection and anybody who tries to change anything is a "filthy stinking communist."

And the next person that chants "U.S.A." get to see me go 1812 on your ass. :twisted:

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Re: Patriotism!

Postby guy07 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:29 am

You know it. :awesome:
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby guy07 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:53 am

Maybe I should explain what I mean ....
*Ahem* I'm a Canadian citizen, as most of you know. Am I happy that I live in a country where my girlfriend can walk around with her top off and not be arrested? Yes. Am I happy I live in a country that is known for helping other nations? Hell yes. Am I happy that I live in a country that has emerged from the global recession before most others (well, we think we're in the clear for now ...)? Of course I am.
Would I ever claim my country is the best at something? No. Do I feel compelled to get drunk and yell out how much I love Canada while pissing on a bar ally wall? No. Well, only on Canada Day.
Canada is great, but we have lots of social, financial and government related problems that need to be dealt with before we can be considered one of the 'best' countries, despite the the UN ranking us in the top 10 for the best countries to live in for over a decade.
I'm assuming most of us feel the same way, we are happy to live where we live but by no means do we think we live in the 'best' country. Well, unless you live in Iceland. ( http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/un-picks-best-and-wo-1122/
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby Immorrel » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:23 pm

Well I'm patriotic enough to serve in my countries military willingly, though I kinda grew into it. It was all for college to begin with and I kinda found out that I kinda like it here along the way. Does this blind me to the stupidity of the system I work for. No. Do I still think my country is great. Occasionally. There's entirely too much messed up in the USA for me to think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it does do a lot of things right.

So I guess I have to agree with you Guy. I'd hope a person could be patriotic without being blind to the problems in their country. The issue is that people confuse patriotism with nationalism, or just go beyond patriotism and wander into the realm of stupidity. Not much can be done about this since people are people, and in my experience people are dumb ;) Not much else to say on the topic so I leave this to see what happens.
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Re: Patriotism!

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:48 pm

Immorrel wrote:I'd hope a person could be patriotic without being blind to the problems in their country. The issue is that people confuse patriotism with nationalism, or just go beyond patriotism and wander into the realm of stupidity. Not much can be done about this since people are people, and in my experience people are dumb ;) Not much else to say on the topic so I leave this to see what happens.


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