Why are most humans extremely gullible?

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Why are most humans extremely gullible?

Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:43 pm

From what I've seen anyways. When it comes to things that matter people seem to easily fall for things that I find to be obvious BS.

People need to start thinking for themselves and when it comes to really important things I don't see many people capable of doing that.

You all fall for advertisement, religion, logical fallacies and make concrete conclusions on things that don't have concrete evidence. Stop it I say! :nono:
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Postby CodeZTM » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:00 pm

*facepalm*

If we had to have concrete evidence for everything in life, it wouldn't be a very interesting life, now would it. Besides the fact that just because you think that things like advertisement and logical fallicies are things that are "BS", doesn't mean they actually are.
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:12 pm

CodeChrono wrote:*facepalm*

If we had to have concrete evidence for everything in life, it wouldn't be a very interesting life, now would it. Besides the fact that just because you think that things like advertisement and logical fallicies are things that are "BS", doesn't mean they actually are.
Who said they wanted concrete evidence for everything? Also I said if you don't have the evidence don't make a concrete conclusion, use science and research.

I also didn't say all advertisement was BS but you didn't seem to get the point. You should try that Enzyte stuff! Did you see the advertisement! It works wonders! I've tried it and it works very well! No I don't work for the company nor did I get paid to say that.. >_> <_<
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Postby CodeZTM » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:36 pm

Ok, so that's one product that didn't work. And they're getting their assed sued too. >_> I'm willing to bet that most products work.

Also, science and research aren't always the best ways to find concrete evidence. A long time ago, scientists were POSITIVE that the world wasn't round and that the sun and universe revolved around the earth. Granted, they have a lot good merit and things are improving over time, but we also need to realize that science isn't an all-powerful thing that doesn't ever make mistakes. :roll:
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:52 pm

Thanks for proving my point that you can't go off making concrete conclusions on things without concrete evidence.

I haven't heard anyone say that there aren't mistakes in science. Human after all aren't we? Of course scientists make mistakes and I don't think they are dead on with everything. I don't believe in perfection actually and someone out there not being able to make mistakes doesn't exist IMO.
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Postby CodeZTM » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:54 pm

x_rex30 wrote:. I don't believe in perfection actually and someone out there not being able to make mistakes doesn't exist IMO.


Ah. Thanks for clearing that up then. :O
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Postby guy07 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:00 pm

See, that's why I love living in canada. If someone says their product does something it doesn't, they are in trouble.
But like chrono said, it's the things we don't understand that intrigue us the most. We are scared of what we don't understand, and roller coasters are proof that we love nothing more then to be scared.
Also, you have to remember that people on this site are of a certian level of intelligence ( or so i like to believe) so bitching about stuff like this usually doesn't get anywhere, as we're mostly a smart (ish) crowd who don't fall for cheap scams.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:15 pm

We need dumb gullible people that blindly follow orders without thinking - how else would we staff our walmarts, pump our gas, flip our burgers, and fight our wars?
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Postby Pwolf » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:44 pm

can you give an example other then just listing things you don't agree with?

I'm not a religious person, maybe a little spiritual though, but I don't think if someone believes in a higher power that they are "gullible" in that regard. if you believe all religions are wrong, then i think you're quite gullible yourself. There's no concrete evidence either way. I wont even go as far to say anything in the Bible is incorrect, I think it's all accurate in context. Nothing is wrong with religion, the problem is when someone tries to force everyone around them to conform to it or use it as a means to further their own agenda.

Some of the smartest and wisest people I know have what I would call far-out beliefs and would fit into your so called list of "stupid gullible" people. Their beliefs are what make them who they are and I wouldn't want it any other way.
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Postby NS » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:12 pm

lulz guess what, the word gullible isn't in the dictionary.
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Postby x_rex30 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:00 am

Pwolf wrote:I'm not a religious person, maybe a little spiritual though, but I don't think if someone believes in a higher power that they are "gullible" in that regard. if you believe all religions are wrong, then i think you're quite gullible yourself. There's no concrete evidence either way. I wont even go as far to say anything in the Bible is incorrect, I think it's all accurate in context. Nothing is wrong with religion, the problem is when someone tries to force everyone around them to conform to it or use it as a means to further their own agenda.
In the end, I'm just making fun of certain people that make a conclusion on something that would make them comfortable even if it may be wrong, they wont question the conclusions they make but will judge other who have made their own conclusions to things they don't agree with and preach they are wrong. I'm making fun of those who spew there opinions out as fact. Those who follow a belief they have without out questioning and having the open idea that what they believe could be wrong. I can't stand close minded arrogance. I'm agnostic and when I see something that is obviously still put out there on the table then I wont jump and keep a conclusion because I feel I already have it completely figured out.
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Postby wurpess » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:15 am

x_rex30 wrote:
Pwolf wrote:I'm not a religious person, maybe a little spiritual though, but I don't think if someone believes in a higher power that they are "gullible" in that regard. if you believe all religions are wrong, then i think you're quite gullible yourself. There's no concrete evidence either way. I wont even go as far to say anything in the Bible is incorrect, I think it's all accurate in context. Nothing is wrong with religion, the problem is when someone tries to force everyone around them to conform to it or use it as a means to further their own agenda.
In the end, I'm just making fun of certain people that make a conclusion on something that would make them comfortable even if it may be wrong, they wont question the conclusions they make but will judge other who have made their own conclusions to things they don't agree with and preach they are wrong. I'm making fun of those who spew there opinions out as fact. Those who follow a belief they have without out questioning and having the open idea that what they believe could be wrong. I can't stand close minded arrogance. I'm agnostic and when I see something that is obviously still put out there on the table then I wont jump and keep a conclusion because I feel I already have it completely figured out.

So your complaint is with the arrogant, close-minded idiots, not necessarily with the gullible. The merriam-webster dictionary defines gullible as easily duped or cheated. But that's not to say that after the duping/cheating occurs, that they may find out and accept the truth and learn from it. What you're referring to are the arrogant, stubborn idiots who either refuse to admit they were wrong or who feel that their way is the only right way, even if it is wrong or doesn't work for everyone else.
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Postby x_rex30 » Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:55 am

Something like that. Yes I don't like close minded arrogance but I also fear we lack progression when people are gullible. I just want people to be more open minded and try to do more research and analyze both sides of a coin instead of acting like they got both sides figured out.

If something is obvious common sense then fine, keep a nice solid conclusion but when certain things can be looked at in many perspectives then I'd hope you are able to see more than one or two perspectives on the issue.

And also my feelings on certain arrogant people is not the fact they could be wrong in their beliefs, it's that they lack the ability to question their beliefs and follow whatever they are blindly.
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Postby CodeZTM » Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:48 am

x_rex30 wrote:And also my feelings on certain arrogant people is not the fact they could be wrong in their beliefs, it's that they lack the ability to question their beliefs and follow whatever they are blindly.


Having faith doesn't always mean they follow it blindly. Good greif, the whole point of most religions is to question things and draw your own conclusions based on holy text and your own intuition.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:01 am

CodeChrono wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:And also my feelings on certain arrogant people is not the fact they could be wrong in their beliefs, it's that they lack the ability to question their beliefs and follow whatever they are blindly.


Having faith doesn't always mean they follow it blindly. Good greif, the whole point of most religions is to question things and draw your own conclusions based on holy text and your own intuition.

By the same token, cults do the same thing - present the illusion of choice so that the indoctrinated are made to believe that their choices are their own so that they harbor no ill will towards their elders. The gullible fall for that (OMG - I brought a tangent full circle) while the scared, dejected ones see their situation as being between a rock and a hard place - they loose what they perceive as everything if they make the wrong choice (friends, family, security, etc.).
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