Mithroch wrote:All you ever needed for 3.5 or 3.0 was the core books. That doesn't mean that they can't put more stuff out. People chose to play with the added options... and purchase (or pirate) the extra books. I've never understood why people complain about all of the extra books but then buy them anyway. What's more... these same people are willing pay for campaign settings and the fuck-ton of additional books that go with it without a second thought.
Sukunai wrote:Mithroch wrote:Mith said stuff... including "fuck-ton" cause he likes it better than "ass-load" though maybe "metric fuck-ton" would have been more potent
That all sounds utterly logical.
Then your players start buying all the friggin extra books. They show up, and get in a snit or moody when you won't include them. Somehow they think just because it was officially printed it all has to be just fine.
The moment you give in you're trapped. They of course don't seem stressed out if YOU can't afford them, and they don't seem to realize if you don't have them, you can't learn them. And if you don't have a grasp of them, you can't accommodate them properly in the game.
And then there's just the simple hassle of having them all present at the game.
And even if you ARE dumb enough to buy them all, they don't conveniently get lighter, making taking them to the game a real treat.
It's a lot more complicated than just saying "sorry guys, we're only using the 3 core manuals in my game". It easily some how just ends up not being as "fun" playing in YOUR game any more. Suddenly they want to play in Bob's game, because he doesn't mind using everything in printe under creation.
Sukunai wrote:Of course my reply to one too many weird out of the ordinary extremely rare sounding peculiar feat wielding PCs out of some bloody manual I don't own, is to just invent a few off the cuff nasty surprises to which no official print will have ever heard of.
"What the hell sort of spell was THAT?!!"
Neat eh, I guess your player has never witnessed that one before.
"What manual is it from?, I want to check it out".
My manual, and no, you can't check it out. But if you kill the guy that just cast it, you get to find out.
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