People whining about others stealing their AMVs...

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Postby godix » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:56 am

chealsealina wrote:Just :roll: wondering why Arigatomina doesn't like you

Because I'm quite sure Arigatomina can identify misogyny when she sees it.

yea in some point your right so i agree but what's the gud and better IDEA in that? Just keep your mouth shut up then watch other non-creator all the credits they get? :?

Complain on the tube, where this shit happens. Report them as violating the TOS if it really bothers you. Then forget about it. We don't want to hear about it on the org.
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Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:13 am

godix wrote:
chealsealina wrote:Just :roll: wondering why Arigatomina doesn't like you
Because I'm quite sure Arigatomina can identify misogyny when she sees it.

well i don't wanna know about that what Arigatomina will say nor answer to that :roll: but do you think to yourself a better man after all :? (you want more than one wife :uhoh:)

godix wrote:
yea in some point your right so i agree but what's the gud and better IDEA in that? Just keep your mouth shut up then watch other non-creator all the credits they get? :?

Complain on the tube, where this shit happens. Report them as violating the TOS if it really bothers you. Then forget about it. We don't want to hear about it on the org.

I'm not sounds to be whining in that post (sorry if that's it's look like) just that's all I want to know.
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Postby godix » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:20 am

chealsealina wrote:but do you think to yourself a better man after all :? (you want more than one wife :uhoh:)

Actually I'd be quite happy with just one wife but I'd lose half my stuff trading the old and used one I have for an improved model I'd enjoy. So instead I plan on having two of them. Not the ideal choice but at least I get to keep my shit. It's a rough life being a man in a country with womens rights.
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Postby elvirasweeney » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:21 am

godix wrote:But it does mean it's very hypocritical of us to steal so much that technically what we do is illegal but turn around and whine about being stolen from.

It is only hypocritical if there was very little creativity involved in making the AMV. So often, there is a lot of work and creativity involved.

A film editor also often uses someone else's footage and soundtrack, but they still edit and their editing is a unique creative act that transforms that footage into something new.

Sure, AMVs are different from regular film editing, but I think it's ludicrous to think that these videos don't transform the original anime into something very unique and different.

I understand why people get ticked someone on the tube put up their work unattributed but if they get so pissed that they'll turn around and bitch about it here, on a totally different site, as if it was a high crime then they really need to evaluate the ethical and legal implications of what they're doing.

Legal issues, yes. It isn't as if they can sue or anything, but they did make a transformative work and someone else is claiming ownership of it. Why shouldn't they feel angry about it? If the video was not worthy of appreciation and praise as a unique work, then no one would feel the need to lay claim to it (and therefore get praise for it).
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Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:32 am

godix wrote:
chealsealina wrote:but do you think to yourself a better man after all :? (you want more than one wife :uhoh:)

Actually I'd be quite happy with just one wife but I'd lose half my stuff trading the old and used one I have for an improved model I'd enjoy. So instead I plan on having two of them. Not the ideal choice but at least I get to keep my shit. It's a rough life being a man in a country with womens rights.

:shock: ah..hu!! so it comes out in your own mouth what Arigatomina means for you! :lol: well guess she will say against to that. :roll: Then if you want to live in MAN rules guess make it your own rights too i guess :? though it depends in other girls if they allow that :lol:



Also I agree in elvirasweeney to her last message :)
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Postby Minion » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:37 am

what? something about coming in mouths? :|
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Postby dokool » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:33 am

chealsealina wrote:
godix wrote:
chealsealina wrote:but do you think to yourself a better man after all :? (you want more than one wife :uhoh:)

Actually I'd be quite happy with just one wife but I'd lose half my stuff trading the old and used one I have for an improved model I'd enjoy. So instead I plan on having two of them. Not the ideal choice but at least I get to keep my shit. It's a rough life being a man in a country with womens rights.

:shock: ah..hu!! so it comes out in your own mouth what Arigatomina means for you! :lol: well guess she will say against to that. :roll: Then if you want to live in MAN rules guess make it your own rights too i guess :? though it depends in other girls if they allow that :lol:



Also I agree in elvirasweeney to her last message :)


It <i>looks</i> like the words are in english, yet when strung together they mean absolutely nothing.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:15 am

dokool wrote:It <i>looks</i> like the words are in english, yet when strung together they mean absolutely nothing.

I love it. It's like each post is an adventure.
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Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:29 pm

Minion wrote:what? something about coming in mouths? :|

here what godix say to me is this
godix wrote:Not the ideal choice (This is pointing to ARI i guess though Ari isn't ideal choice for godix :shock:)
but at least I get to keep my shit. (this one is really shocking for me it looks like godix want her for fun or shit :shock:)

that want i say godix reveal what he wants for Arigatomina though I'm waiting what Ari will gonna say :roll:

I would say that is speakable and no comment for ARI.....
though one thing for godix this is why I don't like harem :roll: for sure.


elvirasweeney wrote:It is only hypocritical if there was very little creativity involved in making the AMV. So often, there is a lot of work and creativity involved.

A film editor also often uses someone else's footage and soundtrack, but they still edit and their editing is a unique creative act that transforms that footage into something new.

Sure, AMVs are different from regular film editing, but I think it's ludicrous to think that these videos don't transform the original anime into something very unique and different.

I am agree to this but you can't prove to someone steal your AMV that this is yours instead if you have a copyrights though how about other using only simple editing :?

elvirasweeney wrote:
I understand why people get ticked someone on the tube put up their work unattributed but if they get so pissed that they'll turn around and bitch about it here, on a totally different site, as if it was a high crime then they really need to evaluate the ethical and legal implications of what they're doing.

Legal issues, yes. It isn't as if they can sue or anything, but they did make a transformative work and someone else is claiming ownership of it. Why shouldn't they feel angry about it? If the video was not worthy of appreciation and praise as a unique work, then no one would feel the need to lay claim to it (and therefore get praise for it).

YES.... so you mean leave it like that bcuz you know to your self that he steal your AMV and make some changes but the credits goes on him and forget what he did :?
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Postby Arigatomina » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:31 pm

Ch3aLs3A L!n@ wrote:...though I'm waiting what Ari will gonna say :roll:

Not a word. This is an OT forum, yeah, but I think we've spammed up the thread enough already.

Just forget it. Back to people whining about stolen vids...
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Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:44 pm

^_^ I say that's gud IDEA if they keep whining it doesn't do anything they just bump here and make more spam I agree to that Arigatomina say ^_^

I think there nothing much to talk about with :lol:
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Postby Beowulf » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:35 pm

Ch3aLs3A L!n@ wrote:^_^ I say that's gud IDEA if they keep whining it doesn't do anything they just bump here and make more spam I agree to that Arigatomina say ^_^

I think there nothing much to talk about with :lol:


I have concluded that you are lame and will take it upon myself to mock you in the future. :up:
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Postby Zarxrax » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:41 pm

DAMN YOU ALL!!!

This was MY THREAD! You people have all gone and ruined my original artistic intent!!!
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Postby starcat09 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:34 pm

Zarxrax wrote:DAMN YOU ALL!!!

This was MY THREAD! You people have all gone and ruined my original artistic intent!!!


Yours? But I thought it belonged to everyone who ever read it! D: You're bringing me down! I'm moving to Sealand!!!

...Things can be done about people posting your videos on That Site and claiming they're not yours, so whining about it is a waste of time. [Move to Sealand!]
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Postby godix » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:02 pm

Zarxrax wrote:DAMN YOU ALL!!!

This was MY THREAD! You people have all gone and ruined my original artistic intent!!!

I've seen AMV Hell 0. There's no way you'll ever convince me that misogyny and double or triple stuffing doesn't fit in with your artistic intent.
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