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Join Dates.

Postby SQ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:49 am

Join dates for this forum.
Do they matter?

Do you look at them to determine how you should treat someone if you haven't seen their name/don't remember it/for any reason at all?

I've been to at least 10 different forums and while they all have join dates somewhere, most of them don't have your joindate smacking people in the face like the .org does.

So, Discuss.

Join dates and our biased opinions/impressions/etc.
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Postby Minion » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:20 am

special interest forums don't usually care about join dates. hobby based forums do.
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Postby Arigatomina » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:39 am

If the person is speaking as an editor or as an amv "critic" then the join date is my first clue about how to take what they're saying.

Someone who has a really old join date (2000, 2001, 2002) probably remembers things about amvs that are "before my time". If they talk about things like trends and changes in the community, I tend to believe them more than I would if it were someone who joined yesterday. It's snap judgement. When someone comments on one of my vids and says something I don't like, I tend to put more weight on their opinion if it looks like they have more experience than me (from being here longer, and thus seeing more). I still probably won't change anything for them, but I won't argue as much as I would if it were someone who just joined.

Age is a factor, too. It's no coincidence that people who talk (type) like they're little kids tend to have recent join dates. Face it - if a person has been a member here for 6 years, he's probably older than 14. If I'm asking for advice, I'd go to the person with more experience. Experience comes with age more often than not.

On the flip side, when I read something really significant from a brand new member, I'm more impressed than I would be if it were written by someone who joined years ago. Same with videos - when someone can churn out excellence on their (seemingly) first try, it's more impressive. We expect more from those who've had years to practice. And if you've been here a few years, you're more likely to be jealous/ashamed when you're shown up by a "newbie" with no experience under his belt.

It doesn't matter off the forum because - aside from the journals - you probably won't ever talk to each other, or see who's most active, looked up to by his peers, etc. Even when you're downloading vids, if you use the search you probably won't pay attention to the join date on their member profile page. People don't even pay attention to the date the video was made. It's not likely they'll look at the creator's join date.

Join date is like a beard. Do you treat gray-haired men differently from babyskinned little boys? I do. At least until I get to know them personally and find out if they're really as different as they look. You can't judge appearances by looking at avatars, so the join date (and user name for the dbz people) gives you your first impression.

Post count, on the other hand, is pointless. Useless spammers are more likely to have a high post count than anyone else. It's a good thing that page isn't linked up front anywhere or...yeah, we might have people getting the wrong impression about our most active posters. :P
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Postby madbunny » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:43 am

Arigatomina wrote:Eloquence



Dammit Ari, you need to stop reading my mind here. :wink:

I'll agree with pretty much everything here, and pretend that I can say it half as well.
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Re: Join Dates.

Postby dokidoki » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:49 am

SQ wrote:I've been to at least 10 different forums and while they all have join dates somewhere, most of them don't have your joindate smacking people in the face like the .org does.

Do they use phpBB? It seems to be on by default in phpBB. It could be turned off, but I don't recall it raised as a problem, unlike the post count.
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Postby SQ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:35 am

they're(the different forums) a mix between phpbb or invision. They have post counts in the normal profiles, but not underneath avatars(usually).

I am not saying this is a problem, it was the only thing that popped into my head when I was thinking "The donator's forum needs a new thread so we can talk about something slightly new."
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:24 am

Anyone who joined after 2005 I sneer at and treat with disdain. Anyone who joined before 2005 but after me, I first evaluate based on grammar and accordance to my opinion. Anyone who joined before me, I consider ancient and outdated and thus obsolete.
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Postby Fall_Child42 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:50 am

Join dates are an irrelevant variable in a decision as to weather or not to shun person "A"

The factors that are relevant are

E(rr is human but this is ridiculous): The amount of egregious spelling errors.

F(ail): The amount of bad grammar errors.

G(et back to AOL): The amount of Non-Satirical "IM / Noob speak" (for a lack or something better to name it)

K(ill me now): The amount of unnecessary emoticons.

W(eeaboo): The amount of random or incorrect usage of Japanese words or phrases.

S(erious Business): The lack of understanding overt sarcasm, or things that are obviously related to humor.

So in simpler terms.

If E+F = ESL than end
else
if E+F+G+K+W+S>Monkey then
A=NOOB

if NOOB
then roll eyes, and or, ridicule
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Postby Beowulf » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:10 pm

Flint the Dwarf wrote:Anyone who joined after 2005 I sneer at and treat with disdain. Anyone who joined before 2005 but after me, I first evaluate based on grammar and accordance to my opinion. Anyone who joined before me, I consider ancient and outdated and thus obsolete.


x2 on all points :rofl:
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Postby SQ » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:30 pm

Why is 2005 the defining point?
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Postby Beowulf » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:56 pm

Because in 2005 videos has been sucking for about a year already.
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Postby Moonlight Soldier » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:12 pm

Nice job Flint :P

And people earn my respect not dates =/
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Postby Orwell » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:41 pm

SQ wrote:Why is 2005 the defining point?


I believe this was when we got a huge influx of new members, and in those hordes were not those that composed the old org, but the kiddies that kill any good site.
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Postby Krisqo » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:49 pm

Orwell wrote:
SQ wrote:Why is 2005 the defining point?


I believe this was when we got a huge influx of new members, and in those hordes were not those that composed the old org, but the kiddies that kill any good site.


I agree in part. I have seem some good editors break through the orcs like Stolen Soul, Kikai_Saigono, CrackTheSky, and aerialesque just to name a few. Even my current G/F joined in the latter part of 2005.

But I agree that there have been a bunch of snot nosed noobs flowing in like the floodgates have been open.
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Postby starcat09 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:54 pm

I've never paid attention to them, personally, but I've only really started visiting the forums in the past six months.

I also didn't realize that I joined in 2003. Wow. Guess since I didn't start making AMVs until later I didn't realize how long I'd been watching.
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