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Postby NeoQuixotic » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:44 pm

madbunny wrote:I thought this was supposed to be a bitching about Vista thread.
Actually, has anybody else been, or used it other than me?

I've been messing with betas since February 2006. Is it better than XP? Oh yeah! Is it an absolutely necessary upgrade? HELL NO!

I haven't even tried to mess with AVIsynth or Vegas in Vista yet. Although I did install ffdshow ok as far as I can recall. And remember, this is the "off topic" forum, not the "let's be an ass" forum :roll:.
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Postby Fall_Child42 » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:04 pm

Ok, Question About Vista...

How large is default install projected to be?

I understood it to be insanely big.
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Postby madbunny » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:06 pm

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madbunny wrote:I thought this was supposed to be a bitching about Vista thread.
Actually, has anybody else been, or used it other than me?

I've been messing with betas since February 2006. Is it better than XP? Oh yeah! Is it an absolutely necessary upgrade? HELL NO!

I haven't even tried to mess with AVIsynth or Vegas in Vista yet. Although I did install ffdshow ok as far as I can recall. And remember, this is the "off topic" forum, not the "let's be an ass" forum :roll:.


I've used avisynth, and virtualdub. It seems to work alright. I've had problems with adobe premiere 6.0, but premiere pro works just fine.
I've also noticed that most games seem to do alright in vista as well.

I have to say, one of the things that I *DO* like about vista is the performance and tools check, where you get a numerical rating of your components to compare them to each other. Sort of a quick way of seeing if you have an obvious bottleneck in your system.

As for being a mandatory upgrade... not at all, especially considering the high prices involved.
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Postby madbunny » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:11 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:Ok, Question About Vista...
How large is default install projected to be?
I understood it to be insanely big.

The iso for version 5600 is 2.52gig.

I don't remember how much space it took on the HD initially. Insanely big, really isn't if you consider the size of a typical hard drive. Boot time hasn't been an issue. Actually, I'm not sure where all the extra weight comes from.
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Postby godix » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:10 pm

One thing I haven't bothered looking into, is it stable on SATA drives and does it require drivers or are they included on the vista install? I haven't had a working floppy for like four years and have refused to get one just so I can reinstall an OS on my SATA drive.
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Postby madbunny » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:25 pm

godix wrote:One thing I haven't bothered looking into, is it stable on SATA drives and does it require drivers or are they included on the vista install? I haven't had a working floppy for like four years and have refused to get one just so I can reinstall an OS on my SATA drive.


I have been running it on two machines at work that are SATA
Haven't had any problems.

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Postby NeoQuixotic » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:14 pm

Well I have a successful dual boot with XP Home and Vista Ultimate now ^_^! I went dual boot since my 4+ year old computer doesn't run Vista as nice as I wish it could. However, now I get to experiment with Vista while I wait to get enough cash to build a new system.

May the new, crappy Vista Movie Maker videos begin :twisted: !
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Postby JudgeHolden » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:42 pm

It's windows, therefore it suxs .....






That is all ..... :roll:
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Postby JudgeHolden » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:44 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:It's windows, therefore it suxs .....






That is all ..... :roll:


Oh, I forgot ...

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Postby Shazzy » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:12 pm

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Postby NeoQuixotic » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:53 pm

ZOMG! :shock: Vista has features like OS X! You must be brilliant for pointing this out :!:
If I had a dollar for every time someone stated the similarities between Vista and OS X, I could quit my job! :lol:

Hmm...lets see:

Instant searching- Not really an amazing or original idea even for OS X.
Gadgets- Konfabulator beat Vista and OS X's Dashboard to the idea.
Aero Glass- People like shiny and pretty crap to look at, nuff said.

Mac OS X isn't that original you know:
Who's the Copycat Now?

And anyways, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. No one is forcing you to buy Vista. Jeez! :roll:
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Postby Scintilla » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:00 pm

How is Vista with computer games? I don't mean just the games of the Win32 era; I also want to know how it handles things like the Windows Entertainment Packs and DOS games.

I still hold that some of the games made in the 386 era were some of the best computer games ever.
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Postby Corran » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:31 pm

I agree with anubisx00 and madbunny. I've been dual booting Vista betas and RCs on my laptop for months now and it is definitely an improvement though depending on your financial values/situation, it may not be worth it to upgrade right now... Personally, I've already bought Vista Ultimate for my desktop and plan to move my XP Pro install to my laptop.

I can't vouch for the really old games but the newer ones seem to work fine and the AMVapp and CCCP installed for me. (The later had to be run in xp compatibility mode though it was an older version of the installer so the CCCP team may have made a vista compatible installer by now.)

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Postby dokool » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:58 pm

Scintilla wrote:How is Vista with computer games? I don't mean just the games of the Win32 era; I also want to know how it handles things like the Windows Entertainment Packs and DOS games.

I still hold that some of the games made in the 386 era were some of the best computer games ever.


I've heard that Vista has problems with recent stuff, so I wouldn't trust it too much with the older games.

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Postby dokool » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:04 pm

And here's another fun one - apparently the Speech Recognition tool has a vulnerability? http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=418


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