What are you playing?

This forum is for members to discuss topics that do not relate to anime music videos.

Postby Otohiko » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:34 pm

lol

Well I'll just mention some of the more 'hardcore titles'.
On the more popular side of the gradient, surely everyone's heard of the Total War series. Then there's for example grand strategy games from Paradox (from Europa Universalis to Doomsday). On the tactical side, there's things like Close Combat or Combat Mission series.
I know most of my examples are historical games, but I know there's trickier fantasy and sci-fi strategies as well, just that I don't play them.

With simulations it's a bit easier. For instance if you haven't played any of the IL-2 series (the most popular and probably most accessible), you probably aren't into combat flight sims (by far the most common simulator games).
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby Fall_Child42 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:55 pm

Update: This very instant I am playing FF III on my awesome new DS :D

Main character been renamed LngCat

With Arc Just being named : MudKip
Image
User avatar
Fall_Child42
has a rock
 
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Location: Jurassic Park
Status: Veloci-tossin' to the max!

Postby Arigatomina » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:49 pm

Otohiko wrote:There is a HUGE market for RTS (real time strategy) in North America for example, but I'd class most of those as fairly light titles (doesn't mean easy - just less technical).

This forum isn't the best selection to use as a standard for American gamers. Most of them are teenagers, most of them went to a bad school and learned very little, most of them will be stupid compared to graduates in the past twenty years. I think the stupider our kids get each generation, the dumber their entertainment gets. That means no complicated games because they don't want to play that.

To make some more generalizations, maybe the gamer friends you know personally like more complicated games because with them it's the smart people who can afford to waste hours and hours (and money) on games. I know where I live it's any kid who whines loudly enough to his mummy for something dumbed down enough he can actually beat it. It's not intelligence or freetime (employment), it's credit cards.

I am surprised that people who engage in the more prolonged terms of escapism rarely lean to more complex and realistic titles.

You've actually solved the mystery yourself there. Escapism doesn't usually go well with realism. It defeats the purpose. Those who engage in long term escapism are probably even more dissatisfied with real life than the rest - if they're that eager/desperate to stop thinking about the real world. They need something complicated enough to keep their attention, creative enough to be entertaining, but not necessarily realistic. I find realism in games a turn off. I want dragons and zombies and monsters and pretty cg backgrounds with colors I'll never see outside my apartment. I don't want lawyers and men behind desks and Advent Children graphics so cg'ed the colors are bland and the faces almost look real (aka ugly). I'd probably fall more into the fantasy types playing rpgs online, than the hardcore gamer escapists, though. I still think the realism is part of the problem. That, and the intelligence/education of the players themselves. Seriously, your average teenager in Indiana can't play Minesweeper because it's too hard - he's not going to play complex (and expensive?) games unless a teacher forces him to.

;
--
;

That said, I'm playing Chrono Cross. A few days ago I was playing FF7. I'll probably switch off to FF8 in a few more days, or maybe Monster Rancher3 now that I can play ps2 games again. I have five games I play repeatedly, bouncing from one to the other any time I get bored with one. I like simple games because they don't require me to think. I think too much in real life. I don't want to think when I'm trying to relax and enjoy myself. If I want something to stimulate my mind, I'll pick up a book instead. ^^;
User avatar
Arigatomina
 
Joined: 03 Apr 2003

Postby Otohiko » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:59 pm

Good point with the realism. I think I used 'escapism' in a slightly different sense, but I can see what you mean with the use of games as escape-entertainment. Seeing how I'm more world-addicted rather than world-weary, I guess that explains my own partiality to realistic games - but only to a point. Realism =/= reality. If people who liked realistic war games wanted reality, they'd rather go join the army or something. Meanwhile a lot of people who like these games, myself included, are self-professed pacifists who want nothing to do with the reality portrayed in games - like any gamers, really.

One other thing I guess is the technical detail, too. People want games, not textbooks. But I kinda like that aspect, especially if it relates to reality. One reason I'm disillusioned with the more casual side of gaming is what I see as relative lack of depth. To me, all my favorite games come down to puzzle-solving - managing loads of different information and coming up with the right solution, or being burned by coming up with the wrong one. Sure, I like seeing stuff blow up, but only to a point.
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby SarahtheBoring » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:30 pm

All the non-AMV-ing and even non-anime nerds I know play FPS games, RTS games and JRPGs as well. (Though there's a trend away from JRPGs among the non-"animu" types, which is not surprising given the typical art style and storyline.) And they all grew up playing games. Mundies didn't grow up playing games, or gave it up for good when they got to high school.

I think it's a nerd issue. Nerds play embarrassing, cartoonish, escapist games about dragons and shit because they've lost their sense of shame (or never developed one in the first place) and revel in childish hedonism; mundies play simulation games and "realistic" FPSes, because you can still play them and consider yourself "not into that nerdy stuff." :lol: [/facetious oversimplification]

But then, hey, maybe we're all idiots and only idiots play nerd games. :roll:
User avatar
SarahtheBoring
 
Joined: 07 Apr 2002
Location: PA, USA

Postby Orwell » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:12 pm

Part of the console success in America, and mayhaps Japan as well, is indeed the escapism of a fantasy world. On a computer, especially one connected to the internet, you've got a myriad of stuff to do on it. And the controls, especially those that rely on the keyboard, require more attention than FF7 on the PS1. The total ennui of just moving your fingers allows for a more sedentry feeling, and your better able to be absorbed in completing some task in the game, even if it is repetitive and boring because so little effort is involved. And you can't just decide, oh, I'm done and go off to browse something else on the machine. There is nothing else. Sure you could put a new game in, but in the end your still immobile. Of course, not ALL console games are quite so boring, I've seen games that give the TW a run for its money. Can't remember the title of it, all I remember is, ZOMGWTF how the hell am I supposed to play with 4 buttons and a directional pad while the camera is locked in useless angle. You can't adapt the complexity of TW to something so limited in control.

In soviet land, at least my impressioni from news and stories, is that they're too drunk to need games, or their life doesn't require a escapism outlet. They're well adjusted to life, and want to have a good time. Vast oversimplization I'm sure, but that's my impression anyhow.

As far as bringing in social groupings, whether elitist or nerd, they seem like unnecessary baggage to just enjoying and being yourself. Besides, everyone 'here' is a AMVer. As far as I see it, video editing is just a form of sadomasochism. To quote another forum I frequent,
VileTerror wrote:Being a [amv editor] is never having to say "I'm sorry".
Latest
[Kristyrat]: Vote for Orwell
[Kristyrat]: because train conducters are dicks.
Otohiko: whereas Germans are like "god we are all so horrible, we're going to die a pointless death now."
User avatar
Orwell
godx, Son of godix
 
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Frying Pan. Destination: Fire.

Postby Beowulf » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:12 pm

I always enjoy Baldurs Gate 2. Some of the best writting in any game is in that one. The attention to detail and care that went into that game is staggering. It really is a labor of love.

Recently I've been playing civilization 4. I'm such a pussy, I can never bring myself to crush my enemies with war, but rather I'll undermine their culture and slowly but surely cause their population to rebel to my cause due to my MASSIVELY superior quality of life.
User avatar
Beowulf
 
Joined: 27 Feb 2002
Location: in the art house

Postby Nessephanie » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:15 pm

Beowulf wrote:I'm such a pussy, I can never bring myself to crush my enemies with war, but rather I'll undermine their culture and slowly but surely cause their population to rebel to my cause due to my MASSIVELY superior quality of life.

I like your style!

I would be playing FF3 if I hadn't forgotten my DS charger in Chicago >_<
and I want to be playing Tales of the Abyss...so at the moment...and always...it's GB!
User avatar
Nessephanie
Cookie Monster
 
Joined: 07 Nov 2004
Location: Chicago

Postby Kalium » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:38 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:I think it's a nerd issue. Nerds play embarrassing, cartoonish, escapist games about dragons and shit because they've lost their sense of shame (or never developed one in the first place) and revel in childish hedonism; mundies play simulation games and "realistic" FPSes, because you can still play them and consider yourself "not into that nerdy stuff." :lol: [/facetious oversimplification]

Shame is one of those social constructs that goes hand-in-hand with conformity. Since nerds and our kin tend to place a lesser emphasis on conformity, shame and such are correspondingly eschewed, occasionally to the extent that we just stop caring about being shamed.
User avatar
Kalium
Sir Bugsalot
 
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Location: Plymouth, Michigan

Postby Otohiko » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:44 pm

I don't know about the nerdy/un-nerdy and conformity/non-conformity. If anything, I'm rather inclined to think that I'm the weird one. You should see the looks on people's faces when I try to explain them some of these 'hardcore realism' games I play :P And then they ask me if I play any 'normal' games :roll:
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby Otohiko » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:59 pm

Beowulf wrote:I always enjoy Baldurs Gate 2. Some of the best writting in any game is in that one. The attention to detail and care that went into that game is staggering. It really is a labor of love.

Recently I've been playing civilization 4. I'm such a pussy, I can never bring myself to crush my enemies with war, but rather I'll undermine their culture and slowly but surely cause their population to rebel to my cause due to my MASSIVELY superior quality of life.


1) BG - and many other Bioware titles - are what many people call 'true' RPGs as opposed to hack-and-slash (focused more on basic combat) or JRPG (as one of my friends put it, "semi-interactive anime with weird fighting systems") varieties.

I'm actually not a fan of these, either, but that's a good example of a more detailed and complex type of game that I was talking about.
(this isn't meant as an insult to any genre, don't kill me yet!)

2) \m/ That is what I call style.
Otohiko
 
Joined: 05 May 2003

Postby SarahtheBoring » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:19 pm

Otohiko wrote:I don't know about the nerdy/un-nerdy and conformity/non-conformity. If anything, I'm rather inclined to think that I'm the weird one. You should see the looks on people's faces when I try to explain them some of these 'hardcore realism' games I play :P And then they ask me if I play any 'normal' games :roll:


If "people" equals "other AMV editors" or "people on the internet," then you aren't asking normal people. You're asking nerds.

Normal/un-nerdy would be people at work (unless you work in the music, film or game industries, or anything else with an unusual quota of nerds) or randomly on the street.

But then again, my mom - 100% un-nerdy until recently - adores Kingdom Hearts, so who even knows these days. :P
User avatar
SarahtheBoring
 
Joined: 07 Apr 2002
Location: PA, USA

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:09 pm

Whee! I've got a Wii!

Wii Wise:

Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess

Computer Wise:

Empire Earth Lan Parties

Other Systems:

Halo 2 Parties
User avatar
CodeZTM
Spin Me Round
 
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Location: Arkansas
Status: Flapping Lips

Postby Shazzy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:51 am

Did anyone else play SimCity? I LOVED that game, from the original to 2000 to 3000...really the only single-player game I played regularly.
AMV guides for Mac users
DOWNLOAD THIS AMV
Quarter-life crisis: a sense that everyone is, somehow, doing better than you.
User avatar
Shazzy
 
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
Location: The Universe

Postby Kristyrat » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:10 am

Shazzy wrote:Did anyone else play SimCity? I LOVED that game, from the original to 2000 to 3000...really the only single-player game I played regularly.


I always failed hardcore with every version of that game. Things would start off well, but then I always went into crazy debt and my citizens hated me. Clearly I should become a politician :o

At the moment, I'll usually pick up a quick round or two of either Melty Blood or Guilty Gear while I'm waiting for a render or some such, Counter Strike: Source when I feel like shooting things, I'm playing through Half Life 2 again, messing around with Pikmin on my Cube (love that game) and I just got 2142 Battlefield, which I intend to waste more time on. : up :
Image
User avatar
Kristyrat
Time-traveling penguin
 
Joined: 26 Sep 2004
Location: Igloo
Status: Lies and fish

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests