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So, about good media players...

Postby ngsilver » Sun May 19, 2013 3:13 am

FS has it right. I was having all kinds of codec and issues with mpchc (32 bit) until I clean installed my system. Now no issues at all. There could be some errant registry key somewhere causing these issues. Also, when you say MPC is it actually MPC or MPCHC? And as well, have you installed the latest version of cccp and mpchc with it? And again on top of that have you tried x64 ver of mpchc? When I had issues with the standard 32 bit ver I was able to play video fine with the x64 ver.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Hagaren Viper » Sun May 19, 2013 4:21 am

HalOfBorg wrote:Does that mean you haven't uninstalled/reinstalled, or don't have a current codec pack? Try CCCP from free-codes.com

http://free-codecs.com/download/Combine ... c_Pack.htm

Tried doing what you suggested and still no change. I almost wouln't mind doing an OS restore but not only did the computer not come with the windows disk, but there isn't even a partition for it. Guess I'm kind of up a creek there huh.

@ngsilver - I've been using MPC, I tried MPCHC after the former stopped working but there was no difference. I uninstalled both of them so I actually don't know which version I had, but I'll definitely look into that.

Really appreciate all the suggestions though, thanks to everyone stopping by. As much as I'm on computers there's quite a lot I don't know about them.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby OropherZero » Sun May 19, 2013 5:11 am

Don't understand what is to hate about VLC Player, it's the best >_>
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby HalOfBorg » Sun May 19, 2013 9:15 am

I used to use VLC for files that wouldn't play in other players, but then I learned a bit about codecs almost never have problems.

I like MPC simply because the controls work right for me. Dbl click video, full screen. Click or spacebar pauses/resumes. I assume other players do that or can be changed in settings.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sun May 19, 2013 10:10 am

Hagaren Viper wrote:
HalOfBorg wrote:Does that mean you haven't uninstalled/reinstalled, or don't have a current codec pack? Try CCCP from free-codes.com

http://free-codecs.com/download/Combine ... c_Pack.htm

Tried doing what you suggested and still no change. I almost wouln't mind doing an OS restore but not only did the computer not come with the windows disk, but there isn't even a partition for it. Guess I'm kind of up a creek there huh.

@ngsilver - I've been using MPC, I tried MPCHC after the former stopped working but there was no difference. I uninstalled both of them so I actually don't know which version I had, but I'll definitely look into that.

Really appreciate all the suggestions though, thanks to everyone stopping by. As much as I'm on computers there's quite a lot I don't know about them.

Systems purchased from big box retailers haven't come with their Windows OS discs since XP. Doesn't stop you from finding an iso around somewhere... You have a legal license to the software after all.

It's clear you fucked something up on your system. A new media player isn't the answer. Fixing the problem is the answer.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby HalOfBorg » Sun May 19, 2013 11:45 am

Have you looked in the Bios for restore options?
I think with my netbook you press Alt+F10 on the Acer logo at boot to get to the restore functions. It has a hidden partition.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Pwolf » Sun May 19, 2013 12:56 pm

Before we start reformatting and reinstalling OS's, what does work and what doesn't? For the things that don't work, what happens? Do you get an error or just nothing happens? Open up the application event viewer after a failed attempt and look for anything related to it (error/warning with application name at fault for example). Post the findings for each:

Windows Media Player? (what version?)
Media Player Classic?
VLC?
MPlayer?

Also, when did the issue start happening? Did you install anything pior? Was the system shut down unexpectedly? Did you get a BSOD?

This doesn't sound like a codec problem and more to do with a windows component that WMP and MPC share. If you haven't done so already, I would suggest again to update DirectX.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sun May 19, 2013 5:10 pm

I would suggest trying CCleaner. You don't even need to know what a Registry is... but CCleaner can clean it.

You can also use it to clear your internet history, cookies, temporary files/caches; and it has pretty decent tools for clearing up remnants of programs you want to uninstall, like conflicting codec packs, and a whole bunch of other stuff you may not even know was installed on your computer... ofc, be sure not to uninstall anything that you are not actually supposed to uninstall >.>

So, basically,
    1. Install CCleaner (Get the Free version)
    2. Use it to clean Windows, Applications, Registry; and Uninstall conflicting codecs and junk stuff
    3. Then fresh re-install MPC + Codecs from the CCCP
    4. Repeat Step 2 every once in a while to optimize your computer's performance

...err... at least that's what I do. Barring that, you might be lucky enough to have a System Restore point on hand; but I suggest trying CCleaner first.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Hagaren Viper » Sun May 19, 2013 10:41 pm

HalOfBorg wrote:Have you looked in the Bios for restore options?
I think with my netbook you press Alt+F10 on the Acer logo at boot to get to the restore functions. It has a hidden partition.

Yeah, by the time I noticed the problem I only had restore points from after this all started, go figure. :sweat:

Pwolf wrote:Before we start reformatting and reinstalling OS's, what does work and what doesn't? For the things that don't work, what happens? Do you get an error or just nothing happens? Open up the application event viewer after a failed attempt and look for anything related to it (error/warning with application name at fault for example). Post the findings for each:

Windows Media Player? (what version?)
Media Player Classic?
VLC?
MPlayer?

Also, when did the issue start happening? Did you install anything pior? Was the system shut down unexpectedly? Did you get a BSOD?

This doesn't sound like a codec problem and more to do with a windows component that WMP and MPC share. If you haven't done so already, I would suggest again to update DirectX.

Windows Media Player doesn't even attempt to start unless I drag and drop a video on it - then it starts for just a second before closing again and giving me this error:
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MPC appears to try and load for a good 5-7 seconds and appears in my processes, but gives up and leaves the processes screen as well. This goes for both opening with and without videos.

VLC seems to work fine for the most part, though while trying to play a movie I got from Netflix I got this error - Note that this was when I pressed play on the dvd menu, it did fine up until then:
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I haven't played with VCL too much, but I quickly popped in another DVD and didn't have that problem, so I have no idea if that's related or I just got a crappy Netflix disk.

Aaand I'm actually not sure what Mplayer refers to?

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Pretty sure the problem started on Tuesday. The only thing I had installed that day was the UT Video Codec, and I didn't have any Windows updates until the day after. I had uninstalled the codec for a bit just to test more recently, but that didn't change anything. No unexpected shutdowns of BSOD.

@Phantasmagoriat - Tried the program, while it didn't give me a fix there was a crapload of stuff to clean out so I can't argue :up:
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Qyot27 » Mon May 20, 2013 8:43 am

Hagaren Viper wrote:Aaand I'm actually not sure what Mplayer refers to?

It refers to this. Most would probably want to use it through SMPlayer, but it's also possible to use it from the command line.
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Re: So, about good media players...

Postby Qyot27 » Mon May 20, 2013 8:48 am

Qyot27 wrote:Most would probably want to use it through SMPlayer, but it's also possible to use it from the command line.

Wrong link. This is the right one:
http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/
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