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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Radical_Yue » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:39 am

Marvel.
I guess I'm in the "All DC heroes except Batman suck" camp.

I've just never been able to get behind superheros that are impervious to just about everything. I mean hell, the biggest problem Superman has is whether or not his super semen will shoot through Louis Lane.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Mkid » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:46 am

I've BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THREAD!

Dc Has better artwork and in my opinion more iconic characters. Dc is more televised.
Static Shock - 2000
Teen Titans - 2003
Batman Beyond - 2002 (which was AMAZING for "another batman Animation")
Kyrpto The Superdog - 2005
Young Justice - Present
Raven - (SADLY NEVER AIRED! HAD HIGH HOPES FOR IT)


Marvel on the other hand has better stories.(Which is why i SHOULD say i like them better)
But i dont.

We cant just go off movies with this. Yeah i think DC is retarded for choosing to make MAJORITY only batman and superman movies but they have an animation studios that stays true to the actual comicbook series.

:ying: DC ALL THE WAY. I have to say through OUT OF ALL THE COMICBOOKS ive brought. 99% of them are marvel. Because as ive said before Marvel has better stories. Its just i LOVE DC characters better.

Just a little Question.
Without Thinking About The Avengers What other marvel characters do you know?
Without thinking Of Batman & Superman What other DC Characters do you know?
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Castor Troy » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:58 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:Marvel.
I guess I'm in the "All DC heroes except Batman suck" camp.

I've just never been able to get behind superheros that are impervious to just about everything. I mean hell, the biggest problem Superman has is whether or not his super semen will shoot through Louis Lane.


I'm in the same boat.

My favorite superheroes are Spider-Man and Batman because they seem to be the most human (Batman is literally only human) out of every other super hero.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby competitionbros » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:38 pm

Mkid wrote:color=#BF0000]Just a little Question.
Without Thinking About The Avengers What other marvel characters do you know?
Without thinking Of Batman & Superman What other DC Characters do you know?[/color]



The first part isn't fair since nearly every non-villain has been a damn Avenger at one point or another and even villains have been Avengers (Dark Avengers but still).
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby competitionbros » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:41 pm

(Damn lack of edit button).


BTW, DC has had some truly atrocious crossover stories and "big" events whereas the only one I didn't like from Marvel (off the top of my head) is Fear Itself. That event was AWFUL.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Mkid » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:07 pm

competitionbros wrote:The first part isn't fair since nearly every non-villain has been a damn Avenger at one point or another and even villains have been Avengers (Dark Avengers but still).


Im only going on popular belief that people who watched the avengers and liked it never opened a comicbook a day in there life. so when i say Avengers i mean to say (Thor,Cptn Merica,Hawkeyed,Blk widow,Hulk) and not the other ones such ass Spiderman, Scarlet witch, Wolverine, and lets not exclude the ones that become honorary avengers like Wiccan Hulkling and ETC. You know the young avengers that at the end of the comicbook series became avengers
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Brad » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:43 pm

It's my belief that any superhero with the right writer behind them, regardless of their set of powers can be really great. Superman for example. I fully understand why there are many people who look at his character and think he's lame because nothing can truly hurt him. For one, that's not true, and two, physical attributes aside, Superman's biggest conflict isn't always how he's gonna best the bad guy, but how to remain true to his ideals GIVEN the fact that if he wanted to, he really could just take over the world. That's the conflict that's more interesting to me. One of my favorite Superman stories is Joe Kelly's "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way" where we see a new team of "heroes" emerge that decide to do what they believe the world needs, and simply destroy villains. Kill them, essentially. The world largely backs them up, seeing Superman's idealism as old fashioned and out of touch with the needs of society. The story revolves around Superman's struggle between wanting to do what he believes is right/just, and being respectful of the will of the people that he fights for. It's a really interesting set of ideas to me, that wouldn't work with most other characters (IMO).

Now, all that being said, Superman is not the reason I love DC. As most of you have said, Batman is IMO the greatest superhero character ever created. He's the character I've certainly read the most of, and is what I consistently always look forward to each month, and I doubt I need to explain why.

"But isn't DC only Batman & Superman?"

Here's a list of other DC characters that I genuinely do like, have read comics starring, have researched back story, etc. (meaning, I'm not just throwing out names I recognize to make a point)

Green Lantern (Geoff John's run on this character is among some of the best comics I've ever read)
Power Girl (Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti's run is one of my very favorite series. She's funny, tongue-in-cheek and bad ass)
Wonder Woman (Brian Azarello's current run is fantastic, along with Gail Simone's awesome run)
The Flash (both Barry Allen and Wally West equally)
Most of the Bat-family (Nightwing, Tim Drake's Robin, Batgirl [in several incarnations], Batwoman, Jim Gordon, Alfred, etc.)
Most of Batman's rogues gallery (The Joker, of course, being one of the best comic book villains of all time)
Aquaman (Yes, he actually is quite awesome. Geoff Johns is doing a great job with his character right now in both his solo series and Justice League)
Doctor Fate (the whole idea and mythos behind this character is just fascinating. I really wish he were more present in the current day)
Green Arrow (while being a fairly close analogue to Batman, he's got a much more renegade spirit to him. Issues with authority and bigotry that give him a unique voice in the DCU)

I could continue on about characters that I do LIKE, but haven't given the proper amount of time to to give a truly definitive opinion on.

Another side I want to point out is Vertigo. The Vertigo imprint was branched out of DC by Karen Berger, who was finding all of these really interest, relevant, literate comics that just wouldn't really fit within the DC brand proper. Vertigo (along with Image Comics) has risen up to be a haven for some of the most highly acclaimed and respected titles in the industry, including my all-time favorite comic series Y: The Last Man, among many others.

There's also the animation side. This is one area where I do believe DC is truly trouncing Marvel. Of all the animated Marvel films/TV series I've seen, none of them really hold a candle to what DC is doing with animation. Their Justice League/Justice League Unlimited series was absolutely phenomenal. Their current running show Young Justice is consistently bad ass and gripping story-wise. Their direct-to-DVD movies are some of the best 2D-animated films being produced today. Their adaptation of Frank Miller's Batman: Year One is something I could recommend to almost anybody, comic book fan or not.

Now, when it comes to theatrical films, it's kind of hard to say. I mean don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Marvel cinema universe (Incredible Hulk aside). They rarely make a mis-step in that arena. DC's track record hasn't been quite as flawless (Green Lantern), but at the same time, they're not making nearly as many, and when it's good, it's the best there is (IMO. I'd take the Nolan Batman films over any of the Marvel films). So I can't really say where I land. I guess probably with Marvel but only by a small margin.

Don't get me wrong, I DO really like Marvel comics. The Ultimate Spider-Man series is just.. awesome! I like a lot of X-Men stuff, Mark Waid's current run on Daredevil is awesome, JMS' Thor is a favorite, Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men is wonderfully amazing, etc. But on the whole, DC just keeps bringing me back time and time again. So while it may not be an enormous disparity, my answer to the question of Marvel or DC, it's DC. And I'd strongly encourage you guys to give it a bigger chance.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Radical_Yue » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:53 pm

Brad, you're a nerd.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Brad » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:55 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:Brad, you're a nerd.

/me does maths and shit
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Mkid » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:57 pm

Brad wrote:*Amazing Speech Supporting DC Comics And Our Love For It*

*Round Of Applause* Nicely said. ALSO Flash Family > Bat Family !ANYDAY! :dino:
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Kristyrat » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:59 pm

Going by my pull list alone, DC is still leading the pack by a wide margin. Then independents, then Marvel.

Marvel has one of my all-time favourite villains, and DC has one of my all-time favourite heroes. I was completely enamored with the Flashpoint event that precluded the "new 52" run of DC, and without it I probably wouldn't be going in to our local comic book shop every week.

Looking at movies, as Brad said, DC has fewer, but I'd rate them higher than individual Marvel flicks. That being said, the overall Marvel movie universe is so robust and I can't deny the influence Iron Man had on the recent quality increase of superhero movies.

The thing is, the array of iconic DC and Marvel characters are so different that it's difficult to really compare them in any kind of objective way. And I'm glad things are that way, I don't want the same stories being told by different publishers, I want to be engaged and surprised when I pick up an old favourite that's got a new spin.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby competitionbros » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:10 pm

Brad wrote:Don't get me wrong, I DO really like Marvel comics. The Ultimate Spider-Man series is just.. awesome! I like a lot of X-Men stuff, Mark Waid's current run on Daredevil is awesome, JMS' Thor is a favorite, Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men is wonderfully amazing, etc.



Ahhhh, I wouldn't go that far. It is, no doubt, excellent but at times it's too overdramatic (Gwen Stacy crying in garbage), has unsatisfying endings to arc (return of the Green Goblin) and sometimes bastardizes the very series it's a part of (Doc Ock controls metal.....come on).

I like a lot of X-Men stuff, Mark Waid's current run on Daredevil is awesome, JMS' Thor is a favorite, Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men is wonderfully amazing, etc.


Yes, yes, can't get into Thor, GOD YES.

But on the whole, DC just keeps bringing me back time and time again. So while it may not be an enormous disparity, my answer to the question of Marvel or DC, it's DC. And I'd strongly encourage you guys to give it a bigger chance.



Supe is my favorite Hero but man, DC is stupid sometimes. I loved DC way more than Marvel before the last few years (Countdown alone bumped DC WAAAAY down). Since reading Civil War, The Initiative, Fear Itself, House of M, and Avengers Disassembled I realized the Marvel Universe makes so many more relatable/sympathetic characters and even heroes/characters I never cared about shines through in these events (like Ms. Marvel) whereas DC just seems to make these secondary characters terrible (Superboy) in these events.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Castor Troy » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:58 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:Brad, you're a nerd.
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Marvel Or DC?

Postby TEKnician » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:58 pm

I liked the Avengers, but I liked Justice League and Justice League: Unlimited too.

Plus, they're redoing Superman because they plan to make a JL movie in about a decade.

[x] Superman
[x] Batman
[ ] Flash
[ ] Martian Man Hunter
[ ] Hawk Girl (hopefully played by Halle Berry, PERFECT MATCH)
[ ] Green Lantern
[ ] Wonderwoman

Hopefully in that order too. They need a new Green Lantern. That Ryan Renolds is not black.

So in Summary...DC.
Almost as hard as fighting a Holy Paladin.
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Re: Marvel Or DC?

Postby Kitsuner » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:05 am

TEKnician wrote:Hopefully in that order too. They need a new Green Lantern. That Ryan Renolds is not black.

John Stewart will be played by Jon Stewart. And Stephen Colbert can be Hawkgirl.
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