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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Statz » Sun May 01, 2011 9:49 pm

CodeZTM wrote:This afternoon, hail went and dented the shit out of my car, and now downtown is flooding. >_< I don't have to worry about it [I live on top of a mountain], but it's going to make commuting tomorrow a royal pain in the ass. At least after monday, we're due for about a week of sunshine. :D


Arkansas sounds like hell...
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby wurpess » Sun May 01, 2011 10:35 pm

CodeZTM wrote:This afternoon, hail went and dented the shit out of my car, and now downtown is flooding. >_< I don't have to worry about it [I live on top of a mountain], but it's going to make commuting tomorrow a royal pain in the ass. At least after monday, we're due for about a week of sunshine. :D

It sounds like someone smashed a weather pinata over AK. XP I'm almost expecting you to come on saying Hercules busted in and defeated a Hydra in the quarry. XP Hope you get more than a week of sunshine. *^_^**hugs* (But not too long. Don't want drought to be the next thing on the list. :uhoh: )
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby CodeZTM » Sun May 01, 2011 10:48 pm

wurpess wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:This afternoon, hail went and dented the shit out of my car, and now downtown is flooding. >_< I don't have to worry about it [I live on top of a mountain], but it's going to make commuting tomorrow a royal pain in the ass. At least after monday, we're due for about a week of sunshine. :D

It sounds like someone smashed a weather pinata over AK. XP I'm almost expecting you to come on saying Hercules busted in and defeated a Hydra in the quarry. XP Hope you get more than a week of sunshine. *^_^**hugs* (But not too long. Don't want drought to be the next thing on the list. :uhoh: )


GAH DAMMIT. You just had to say it didn't you? We didn't have a quarry, so he went and busted up our only source of entertainment.. Wal-mart. :roll:
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Mon May 02, 2011 1:17 am

Damn it, Code, this is like the sixth time that your avatar has been dancing in perfect sync to my music. :evil:
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby purplepolecat » Mon May 02, 2011 11:18 pm

Well, now we have 4 years of Bush Lite to look forward to. Good job, Canada.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Jadecavy » Mon May 02, 2011 11:33 pm

purplepolecat wrote:Well, now we have 4 years of Bush Lite to look forward to. Good job, Canada.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Otohiko » Tue May 03, 2011 12:01 am

Jadecavy wrote:
purplepolecat wrote:Well, now we have 4 years of Bush Lite to look forward to. Good job, Canada.


I still don't feel bad about not voting though. Voting for "lesser evils" isn't really a great option either.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby meleechampion » Tue May 03, 2011 1:47 am

Otohiko wrote:I still don't feel bad about not voting though. Voting for "lesser evils" isn't really a great option either.

I disagree.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Otohiko » Tue May 03, 2011 2:31 am

You disagree about me not feeling bad? That's a lotta double negative and mind-reading :dino:

I'll always have one scene from my earlier life burned into my mind, July 3rd 1996 when I went with my parents who were wavering in their choice to vote in the run-off of the Russian presidential elections. It looked to be a close call between Boris Yeltsin (aka. perhaps the one politician I've ever actually cursed and condemned), and the communist Gennady Zyuganov. My parents did not support either - but the short, sad story of true liberal platforms (which my parents sympathized with) in post-soviet Russia was at that point coming to a close. So, they got their ballots and went up with me to the table - I was 12 so, obviously, I didn't get one, although I was well-informed about politics for my age (or any age) at the time. After a few moments, they both just handed me their ballots and a pen, and said: "Look, we really don't know who to choose here, why don't you just do it? If Yeltsin wins, we'll be in Canada in 2 years (our immigration process was well along the way by then). If Zyuganov wins, we're probably stuck here."
I thought for a few seconds, and checked off Yeltsin on both ballots.

I don't think I'll ever quite get over that memory. I'm sorry, but once you've been in that sort of position, I don't think you can get over dismissing the ethics of political trust. The idea that I helped elect politicians that stifled my family's will to stay in, or ever return to, a country I love and still miss, is not one that I find easy to stomach, and I refuse to let myself do that again. Even in apparently less extreme Canadian circumstances.

And it's not even that. I've given everyone in Canada a fair chance. I've voted for Liberals, NDP and Green party alternatively in several previous provincial and federal elections - where I thought, naively, that focusing on the one or two issues that were important to me was at least grounds for beginning to build a compromise. For example, proportional representation. But the more I looked at the actual party platforms, the less I felt I could use that excuse. Then two years ago or so I was seriously considering joining the Canadian Communist Party, because it's no secret that at least on socioeconomic policy I'm radically socialist. But the more I familiarized myself with everything, the more I became disillusioned if not outright angry. I'm not even gonna go into details here, but I was disappointed with how un-socialist even the supposedly extreme socialists in this country were, at least in any organized sense. And their PR was, well, frankly retarded and MUCH to their discredit. So I couldn't agree with even these fringe parties, because I felt that they didn't even speak on my behalf in the broadest socioeconomic sense, let alone details.

I gave this election a fair chance to. I actually made the effort to follow the debates, learn the candidates, examine the party platforms, consider the promises and records of all the main parties involved. They didn't make sense, none of it added up in the details and none of it reflected in any substantial details the changes and non-changes that I would want to see. The campaigns run by all parties - major and minor - were moronic and offensive to me. They aimed at the lowest common denominator and exploited ignorance. In the end, this election was about NOTHING. When I realized that my vote isn't going to make the inkling of a difference no matter how many people agreed or disagreed with me, I quit. I don't blame people for feeling differently, but at this point I would sooner vote with my feet and leave Canada (if shit goes down, which let's face it, is not terribly likely right now) than again see myself as culpable in my own marginalization. I'm not standing here waving some anarchist flag, really - it's just that I will not give anyone with whom I have fundamental disagreements license to speak on my behalf. That's it. If I had an option to vote against everybody (in a way that would have been meaningful and would have sent a real message of non-confidence), or against a particular party, I would. I didn't get that option. So now if I'm going to be subject to a government I'm not happy with, you can't say it's my fault. Because noone offered me one I would be happy with. So I may not have a voice in government, but at least I'm at peace with my own conscience for the moment.

Again, if others feel differently, I'm not gonna make a point to get into arguments and attack people's reasons for voting. They were probably good reasons. Mine are good reasons too.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Seijin_Dinger » Tue May 03, 2011 3:52 am

There have been elections where if I dont support a candidate that I have left that area blank. I do not view this as wasting or throwing a vote away. You shouldnt be expected to cast your ballot for someone because they are the lesser evil, but because they are the person you feel is right for the position, and if you feel that no one running is right for that position, then vote for no one
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby meleechampion » Tue May 03, 2011 4:31 am

George, I want to reply to this, but I also don't want to offend you. I still disagree with with you... quite a bit. Sorry. I'll just thank you for explaining yourself instead.

Thank you.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Tue May 03, 2011 4:39 am

Historic election |:>
I'm happy the Bloq is essentially DEAD.
DING DONG THE BLOQ IS DEAD. |:> |:> |:> |:>
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Jadecavy » Tue May 03, 2011 6:48 am

The Bloq is dead, and the NDP has risen from its ashes!
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Otohiko » Tue May 03, 2011 2:57 pm

The Bloq being dead is also not necessarily a good indicator. As some have suggested, the separatist departure from federal political channels may just mean that it's going elsewhere. In some ways, that's possibly worse.

On the plus side Ignatieff is also gone now.
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Re: Vent Thread

Postby Chained(E)Studio » Tue May 03, 2011 4:40 pm

It rained :/
Its been so nice, finally we got out of the snow/sun period, to get a beautitful hot couple of days, then boom rain ://
While rain is good, its also not good considering I really want sun T_T

On the notes above: I didn't vote either, however I see it as no matter who is in "charge" there will always been things that go good, and go bad. I do not see a point on helping them make the bad worse even if I could just go in and leave the pallot blank. I registered, just didn't vote : ) I am not political at all and would prefer something like venus project to have a running chance : ))


Edit:
I also cut my thumb trying to cut open a bagel. I wish they would just cut straight threw the bagel while packaging them instead of the half on one side, and half on other side thing
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