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Re: Comic Books

Postby Pwolf » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:33 am

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Re: Comic Books

Postby Brad » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:56 pm

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Brad wrote:So I finished up the JMS run of Thor. It was indeed very epic and awesome. He did a good enough job of explaining things about past events that I wasn't too lost, but it definitely has made me curious about reading prior Thor stuff to get more of the story (things like Ragnarok and what-have-you). I'm considering checking out the Walter Simonson Thor run, which I've heard very good things about. Where did the story go from there in terms of like, which writer(s) continued the story or what were the arcs titled? The end of volume 3 leaves you kinda hanging since it seems like it's about to get pretty amazing. Made me wish he had continued it on.


Glad you liked it. I unfortunately (or fortunately) stopped reading after JMS's run. I generally follow writers and I don't recall offhand who the author was. It wasn't anyone I usually follow so I stopped. However for all I know it might have gotten better or continued it. Good news is they're not that far along since that run so if you really wanted to continue, I don't think it's more than 5 - 6 issues (maybe a little more). I unfortunately also don't know what happened previously other than Ragnarok.

Anyway the good news is, you don't hate good writers :P. It at least gives me some idea what you may or may not like. If you can find it, you should check out JMS's Superman: Earth One trade (sadly on in hardcover). It came out a few weeks ago and got some critical acclaim (and sold out in most places). Good news is you don't need any prior knowledge since it's basically a standalone trade that retells the origin and whatnot. Well standalone until they just realized how good it was and are now making a 2nd to continue the universe. Sad news is due to the demand for a 2nd trade, JMS is going to stop writing monthlies for a year (which includes Superman) since DC wants him to start working on the 2nd trade ASAP.

Oh yeah you didn't update if you had read any new Batman or finished Green Lantern Rebirth or not. Maybe I missed it.


Well, Vol. 3 of JMS Thor was issues 600-603 plus Giant-Sized Thor vol. something. So I can only assume that it goes on from issue 604+? In the "main" run they're at like 615 or something. But there's like a million different Thor stories going right now so who the hell knows. Why's it gotta be so messy?

I still haven't gone back to Green Lantern. I also did some research on the Batman & Robin books and found out where they fit into the Morrison-Batman-verse continuity. So I think I'm gonna catch up on those previous books, starting with Batman and Son. I know you're no big fan of his writing, but I figure I will at least give it a chance and make my own conclusions.

I picked ip issue #1 of a new series on Image called "27." It's still super early in the story but so far I really dig the style.
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Brad » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:07 pm

Okay. Update time.

I read the first two GL books (Rebirth and No Fear). Really really digging it. I will most definitely be catching up on this series (or, these multiple series).

I also pulled the trigger on some of the Grant Morrison Batbooks. I picked up what I'm THINKING will get me caught up on the current series (basically getting me up-to-date on the story leading into Batman: The Return (one-shot) and Batman Inc. So I got:

Batman & Son

Batman: The Black Glove
Batman: R.I.P.
Batman: Long Shadows (not Morrison, but apparently integral to the main storyline)
I still have the first 2 books of Batman & Robin ("Batman Reborn" and "Batman vs. Robin") from a while ago
And I have all 6 of the individual issues of The Return of Bruce Wayne

If I've done my research correctly, this SHOULD be everything... I've heard that I should also read Final Crisis, but... eh... I've had enough of crossover messiness.

Though on that topic, and to completely contradict myself, I picked up Siege tonight, based on a recommendation from the owner of Challengers. I was talking to him about the JMS Thor run which I really loved and I asked about the continuation of that storyline, and he basically said that Siege kind of wraps that whole deal up, amongst other things.

Aside from superhero stuff, I also picked up issue #1 of Lady Mechanika, since Ileia had bought issue #0 of it and I REALLY dug the style. It's one of the only current running steampunk style comics going right now and it's really damn cool. Also ordered issue #3 of Scarlet online since it's pretty much sold out in stores everywhere.

EDIT: So we just did our secret santa gifting dealie with the Chicago crew, and Ashley ended up getting me vol. 1 of both The Walking Dead and Y The Last Man, both of which I had been wanting to eventually read. When I lied down tonight I decided to read into Y The Last Man.... HOLY FUCKING SHIT it's so good! It might seem like a slight over-reaction to just a first volume, but seriously it hits on all the cylinders that I totally dig. I guess I really do like post-apocalyptic stories when they're told in a very interesting and unique way (same reason I really got into Freakangels). So yeah, I will DEFINITELY be picking up the rest of this series (and, wow, it's actually a full series I'll be able to read through and be done with. Although I kind of want to get the Deluxe Editions, and vol. 5 doesn't come out until friggin MAY of next year. WTF? Vol. 9 & 10 of the original trades have been out for a long time. Could they possibly be adding so much to the Deluxe hardcovers to merit such a huge gap between editions? Blegh.)
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Knowname » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:23 pm

I like Spiderman... at least in the late 90s with all the venom and cloning and stuff. It was pretty cool. But I don't have the money for comic books any more.
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Re: Comic Books

Postby inthesto » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:58 pm

I just did a ctrl+f for Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and found nothing.

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Re: Comic Books

Postby Knowname » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:37 pm

dwchang wrote:-Gambit is back with the X-Men, but a few years ago he was actually with Apocalypse. I think he was trying to save them from Apocalypse by submitting to him, but he gets his brain messed with and becomes Apocalypse's new Death. After being a villain for awhile he eventually rejoins the team. Probably got "unbrainwashed' or whatever. I do remember him being with Mister Sinister during Messiah Complex but that might be because of something involving Rogue.

see this is why I couldn't get into X-men, the whole think sounded like a WWE storyline. I find Spiderman to be more down to earth. (Which is funny lol considering what you said about being down to earth xD)

since Brad had no clue about Genosha, I guess he didn't watch the Xmen cartoon as a kid :) only the first series was cool though. I don't know about the crap that came afterword lol
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Enigma » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:29 am

X-Men Evolution was cool |:

Even though i watched it when i was 6 |':
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Enigma » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:30 am

On a serious note though, haven't read much in awhile. Was reading some old X-Men volumes i had from the early 90's my dad left me.

Fun stuff |: nowhere i can really find comic books to buy/read, since each one would be 5$ a piece
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Re: Comic Books

Postby dwchang » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:45 am

I found these two quotes to be quite amusing when put together...

Knowname wrote:see this is why I couldn't get into X-men, the whole think sounded like a WWE storyline. I find Spiderman to be more down to earth. (Which is funny lol considering what you said about being down to earth xD)


Knowname wrote:I like Spiderman... at least in the late 90s with all the venom and cloning and stuff. It was pretty cool. But I don't have the money for comic books any more.


So the Clone Saga (to you) is down to earth? Really? The Clone Saga is regarded as the worst era in Spider-Man history and the very reason myself (and many others) quit reading the book. It was so freaking ridiculous (i.e. the opposite of down to earth) and was basically a giant FU to anyone who had been following the book. "Oh you know that continuity you've been following for 20 years? It's not really Peter Parker...JUST KIDDING!"
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Fall_Child42 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:55 am

What do you all think of All Star Batman?

I think its a great parody and satire of Frank Miler by Frank Miller.
It's definately worth a read as long as you don't expect to take it seriously.
I also reccomend reading all the Batman dialogue in the Christian Bale batman voice!
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Otohiko » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:25 am

Brad gave me a quick run-down of stuff he's got and now I'm working my way through some of it. Read I Kill Giants, rather loved it - really a fairly non-cliche take on child psychology, without going over the top. Then went through the 4 currently-out volumes of Freakangels, really loving the hell out of that, especially the art. Now reading Superman: Red Son.
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Knowname » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:56 am

dwchang wrote:So the Clone Saga (to you) is down to earth? Really? The Clone Saga is regarded as the worst era in Spider-Man history and the very reason myself (and many others) quit reading the book. It was so freaking ridiculous


lol I guess you caught me there. I tend to take fictitious crap as 'what if?' scenarios, but that's just me, and probably because I'm not too into it. The sad thing is, the Xmen what if's actually happens xD every tuesday and friday night xDD
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Re: Comic Books

Postby Brad » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:23 am

Oh wow. Active thread again.

So, since my last update, here is what I have read.

Superman: Red Son (got for Christmas from André and Kiki)
Superman: Earth One
Cowboys & Aliens
Starborn - Issue #1
The Traveler - Issue #1
Soldier Zero - Issue #1-3
Morning Glories - Issue #1

I've been really damn busy over the last week or so (and will continue to be until Friday probably, working my full-time job during the day and then freelancing at night) so I haven't had much time to get into all the new Batbooks I got. The 2 Superman books I got though were absolutely awesome (ESPECIALLY Red Son... Holy shit. Such a brilliant premise and execution, and I adore how it ended. It did something that I tend to really really dig in fiction literature and it just totally grabbed me on the whole. I highly recommend it). Earth One was also extremely entertaining and I can see why it's getting so much acclaim. The writing, pacing, and artwork were all top notch. I'd have to say I preferred Red Son on the whole, but Earth One is high up there as well.

Cowboy & Aliens... it just... sucked. It was really damn lame. The beginning of it seemed really promising. It seemed like it was going to be this cool and deep philosophical journey, but it jumped ship really damn fast and just became.. well.. stupid :| Thankfully, at least based on the trailer, the movie doesn't SEEM to be following the same story as the comic, which makes me hopeful.

The single issue things I got were kind of impulse buys from the last time I went to Challengers. I had heard about the 3 new Stan Lee-helmed (but not written) series of Starborn, Soldier Zero, and The Traveler, and was relatively curious so I checked em all out, along with a series that simply had a cool looking cover (Morning Glories). Of all of them I'd say Starborn has the most interesting premise to me. The Traveler seems kinda... meh... I dunno... Probably needs a few issues to get me interested. Soldier Zero was pretty cool. A little gimmicky but, we'll see where that goes. Morning Glories seems like it'll either be really cool once it gets into the meat of the story, or be a mouthpiece for some annoying ass characters.
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Re: Comic Books

Postby dwchang » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:37 pm

Brad wrote:I've been really damn busy over the last week or so (and will continue to be until Friday probably, working my full-time job during the day and then freelancing at night) so I haven't had much time to get into all the new Batbooks I got. The 2 Superman books I got though were absolutely awesome (ESPECIALLY Red Son... Holy shit. Such a brilliant premise and execution, and I adore how it ended. It did something that I tend to really really dig in fiction literature and it just totally grabbed me on the whole. I highly recommend it). Earth One was also extremely entertaining and I can see why it's getting so much acclaim. The writing, pacing, and artwork were all top notch. I'd have to say I preferred Red Son on the whole, but Earth One is high up there as well.


Glad you liked them both. Red Son is probably my favorite "Elseworlds" (the equivalent of What Ifs in the DCU) and I obviously really enjoyed Earth One since A) it's my favorite writer and B) I recommended it to you :P. I hear they're working on a sequel and aiming for it to be released next year.

IIRC Red Son is written by Mark Millar who unfortunately is hit or miss. He's hit with things like the Authority and Kick Ass, but miss when he writes main stream stuff like Marvel's Civil War.
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Re: Comic Books

Postby hasteroth » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:10 pm

Ultimate Marvel. It is glorious. I've been reading every Ultimate Marvel Comic. I can give you a link and a reading order so you don't have to buy them all and figure out the right order to read them in.

Or if you only want to read one of them, read Ultimate Spiderman. There's also Ultimate Comics Spiderman which picks up after the end of Ultimate Spiderman.
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