

Otohiko wrote:1812 is likewise of very passing interest - the "War of 1812" in Russia means something entirely different, i.e. Napoleon's invasion of Russia (which arguably was far more significant and decisive anyway, and I'm rather irritated at North American history education largely ignoring it).
godix wrote:US history classes barely mention that Russia was invaded, much less how influential that front was in the war.
godix wrote:Now WWII, you'd have a point there. US history classes barely mention that Russia was invaded, much less how influential that front was in the war.
Kosmit wrote:godix wrote:Now WWII, you'd have a point there. US history classes barely mention that Russia was invaded, much less how influential that front was in the war.
What bothers me more is that Hitler is made out to be the biggest bad guy of WWII, while what he did is nothing compared to how many people died under Stalin's command.
Pwolf wrote:Kosmit wrote:godix wrote:Now WWII, you'd have a point there. US history classes barely mention that Russia was invaded, much less how influential that front was in the war.
What bothers me more is that Hitler is made out to be the biggest bad guy of WWII, while what he did is nothing compared to how many people died under Stalin's command.
iirc and excuse my ignorance if I'm completely off, while the majority of the casualties during the war were under Stalin's rule, Russia was getting their ass handed to them by Germany. At the time they needed people to fight back and stand their ground. I don't really believe that killing their own soldiers while they retreated was the best way to go about it but if that was going to get people to hold Germany back, then desperate times call for desperate measures. Russia also had way more soldiers then they had guns to give them so a lot of them went into battle with nothing but a knife and maybe a few rounds of ammo for a gun they didn't have. Of course there's more to it then just that but the point being looking at just the amount of casualties doesn't really make Stalin that bad compared to Hitler who tried to wipe out an entire group of people for no reason.
mirkosp wrote:I think he was referring to Gulags...
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