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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Infinity Squared » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:35 pm

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Infinity Squared wrote:Good stuff guys, congrats all!
dude loved the bob video.
You get the special "Shining Finger Studious" editors award for that one, ill send you a shirt or something when we get the new ones made :up:

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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Pwolf » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:38 pm

zeiram_00 wrote:Sword&Sorrow, really? the other winners were good but that one, how? was the drama category that watered down or am i missing something here? someone explain the appeal of that vid for me.

Same thing could be said about any of the winners... you are probably asking the wrong ppl as i bet 99.9% of the audience who voted for it don't follow this or the sakuracon message board. I thought it was a solid video so i'm sure other people did too. I didn't vote for it but it was solid.

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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Castor Troy » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:38 pm

Pwolf wrote:
zeiram_00 wrote:Sword&Sorrow, really? the other winners were good but that one, how? was the drama category that watered down or am i missing something here? someone explain the appeal of that vid for me.

Same thing could be said about any of the winners... you are probably asking the wrong ppl as i bet 99.9% of the audience who voted for it don't follow this or the sakuracon message board. I thought it was a solid video so i'm sure other people did too. I didn't vote for it but it was solid.
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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Seijin_Dinger » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:23 pm

I also thought it was a solid video. Drama had a hard fought scoring system to make the finalists.
Also this next part is strictly off the record, and an observation while perusing the contest archives
http://sakuracon.org/programming/amv/archives
but Kenshin videos seem to do well at this con
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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Pwolf » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:29 pm

Seijin_Dinger wrote:Kenshin videos seem to do well at this con
Two Kenshin videos in a row for drama... i think i might make a Kenshin video just to try and make it 3 in a row >.>

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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by zeiram_00 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:17 am

I understand that more than one video in a category could win it. After watching contest videos i can usually figure out how it was possible for a video to win, but Sword&Sorrow was a video that shouldn't have been a finalist. All the vid was was a recap/summary of the OVA (focused on the girl's part in the storyline) with less happy elevator music. I've seen the OVA and considering previous kenshin vids winning, i'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that most people attending have probably seen it as well. I don't need a refresher. Winning amv's usually keep your attention, tell a good story, express emotion, have really pretty special effects, have mass fanboy/girl appeal and/or any combination of these. Sword&Sorrow did none of the above. So again, how?
maybe someone who voted for it could try and explain why they thought it was good, because this is the first time i've been at a complete loss for why a vid would win.
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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Pwolf » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:42 am

zeiram_00 wrote:I understand that more than one video in a category could win it. After watching contest videos i can usually figure out how it was possible for a video to win, but Sword&Sorrow was a video that shouldn't have been a finalist. All the vid was was a recap/summary of the OVA (focused on the girl's part in the storyline) with less happy elevator music. I've seen the OVA and considering previous kenshin vids winning, i'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that most people attending have probably seen it as well. I don't need a refresher. Winning amv's usually keep your attention, tell a good story, express emotion, have really pretty special effects, have mass fanboy/girl appeal and/or any combination of these. Sword&Sorrow did none of the above. So again, how?
maybe someone who voted for it could try and explain why they thought it was good, because this is the first time i've been at a complete loss for why a vid would win.
Your definition of what makes a video "good" is different then what other people think... that's pretty much it.

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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by CorpseGoddess » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:57 am

Pwolf wrote:
zeiram_00 wrote:I understand that more than one video in a category could win it. After watching contest videos i can usually figure out how it was possible for a video to win, but Sword&Sorrow was a video that shouldn't have been a finalist. All the vid was was a recap/summary of the OVA (focused on the girl's part in the storyline) with less happy elevator music. I've seen the OVA and considering previous kenshin vids winning, i'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that most people attending have probably seen it as well. I don't need a refresher. Winning amv's usually keep your attention, tell a good story, express emotion, have really pretty special effects, have mass fanboy/girl appeal and/or any combination of these. Sword&Sorrow did none of the above. So again, how?
maybe someone who voted for it could try and explain why they thought it was good, because this is the first time i've been at a complete loss for why a vid would win.
Your definition of what makes a video "good" is different then what other people think... that's pretty much it.
Agreed. The one thing I've learned from 4 years of amv contests is that they are totally and completely subjective. What a judge might like, the audience doesn't. What an editor might notice, non-editing audience members don't even see. People like what they like, regardless of how "good" we editors might think something is (or isn't).

Let it go. Trust me, it's not worth your time or energy QQ'ing about it. I learned that the long, hard way---but I'm much more sanguine about the whole thing now. :wink:
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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by zeiram_00 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:24 am

I am NOT complaining about the video winning because i didn't like it.

i've seen many winners/finalists videos of several contests and regardless of whether i personally liked them or not i could see the appeal of the video and thus why it happened to win that contest (yes i know audience voting is extremely subjective)
What i am saying is that i found this video to be well below the quality of other contests finalists/winners and can not see the appeal for it winning. that's why i am asking for someone to explain the appeal of it to me.

So unless you voted for the video to win i don't need anymore "get over it" remarks. If someone who voted for it could give me one valid reason why they decided it was best in category then i could find some peace in the issue.
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Re: Sakura-Con AMV Contest Winners

Post by Pwolf » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:24 am

zeiram_00 wrote:I am NOT complaining about the video winning because i didn't like it.

i've seen many winners/finalists videos of several contests and regardless of whether i personally liked them or not i could see the appeal of the video and thus why it happened to win that contest (yes i know audience voting is extremely subjective)
What i am saying is that i found this video to be well below the quality of other contests finalists/winners and can not see the appeal for it winning. that's why i am asking for someone to explain the appeal of it to me.

So unless you voted for the video to win i don't need anymore "get over it" remarks. If someone who voted for it could give me one valid reason why they decided it was best in category then i could find some peace in the issue.
You're not going to get the answer you're looking for. I don't understand why you're making such a big deal about this video while there were several other videos in the contest, IMO, that were "well below the quality of other contests finalists/winners" as well. You don't see me demanding you or someone else to explain themselves do you? As i said before, i didn't vote for it but it's a solid video. It would've been my second pick though. It's well edited and solid. Yes, it follows the story of the OVA pretty closely but there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a difference of opinion, accept that and move on. Obviously other people see something you don't. I see a well edited video, you don't. Is that answer not good enough? You'll get the same answer from someone who voted for it.

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