The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Castor Troy » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:55 pm

Sigh, I just can't seem to win with the big cons this year. :(

Congrats to the finalists.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby AngelDragoon » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:11 pm

Well, while I am quite happy to see my studio on the names of those who potentially got in, (I stress potentially, *knocks on wood*), reading this entire thread did make it almost bitter sweet.

I have never been to Otakon, due to the fact that I can't afford to drive/fly out that far, but I have friends who have attended, (and who are still attending, even this year), and have spoken highly on how big this contest is, particularly in popularity. It baffles the mind as to why they would begin treating such an event, which is almost as popular as the masquerade or concerts going on, as some have stated before, so poorly. Granted, it is likely they don't understand what is required to run a decent showing, but it's as if they aren't even trying. Especially with the repetitive use of 'Please' in that last statement.

And then I read this:

VicBond007 wrote:Sorry about those of you who didn't get in. There were some really good gems that just couldn't make the cut. Too bad Otakorp thinks Ramen Fighter Miki is more important than you.


Seriously? :? I couldn't even get past the first episode. Then again, others may enjoy this type of comedy, but that's beside the point. It is clear what is truly running the show. "Can't have capitalism without capital! :awesome: " As sad as it is, and even if this is a convention for fans, it is no surprise that they would cater to the ones who have the money. It's basically, 'Amv contest=giving money for awards and prizes' vs. 'Getting paid by companies to show their wares', (unless I'm getting Otakon's business practices completely backwards, to which I apologize and have yet to see any reason as to why they are doing what they are doing, other than being power-hungry higher ups who like holding their events/events they like over everything else).

While I support written disappointment of these practices, I don't think writing anything now will get anything done except inform that the public knows what they're doing and potentially blame the people running the AMV contest for leaking said information, (ie. rewrite saying it was 'lies and slander!', which could be debated back and forth with written confirmation, but it's a full circle of problems and headaches). Now, granted, some might be okay with this, but my honest opinion would be to wait and actually write saying how you disliked how the AMV contest was set up comparatively to years prior, (A/V sync problems, color problems, etc., etc....), not blaming the AMV contest itself, but the rooms and set up they were obviously forced to have. Indirectly hitting them where it hurts, so to speak.

Just my two-cents. |:> I appreciate you sticking to your guns, though, Vic, and I hope this gets settled much better in the future.

EDIT: Also, congrats to everyone as well! Hope all goes well out there, despite all the hoopla.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby irriadin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:11 pm

VicBond007 wrote:
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I'm super-happy about making it in, but I wish the contest were, well, not effed up. Still, congrats to all participants!

Also... Vic, can you fix my name please? :uhoh:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby VicBond007 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:16 pm

irriadin wrote:
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I'm super-happy about making it in, but I wish the contest were, well, not effed up. Still, congrats to all participants!

Also... Vic, can you fix my name please? :uhoh:


Don't worry it's not a typo in the contest. I pulled that data straight from the submission forms. That's just me fatfinger typing the list :3
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Gaelstrom » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:17 pm

Just out of curiosity, is Otakon legally obliged to follow the demands of members somehow? I mean it's a non-profit, correct? If things do somehow just start going in a direction that is completely ass-backwards as things seem to be going with the scheduling and potential derailing of fan-based focus, is there nothing we can do as the people who pay the bills and as 'members' as was stated before to have a say in what the focus should be? Anime Expo was one of the most disjointed experiences I ever had as a fan, because one hallway felt like Otakon, another felt like a corporate waiting room, and the whole scenario was just uninviting. The salvage of course was seeing the Haruhi concert, but still, the whole thing felt very strange.

I'm all for finding ways to guarantee some kind of checks and balances system to make sure someone oversees the focal point of the con with a single, defined goal, like 'The fans will enjoy their culture" or something, that the Council of Shadows on Otakon must adhere to based on fan votes. I mean I may just be overstepping but... this is technically our con, isn't it? Seeing VicBond007, whose videos inspired me quite a bit, get this dejected is nothing short of a travesty.

I'll look objectively this year, of course. Change isn't always a bad thing and must be handled with an open mind, but still, there must be a bigger picture observation going on to guarantee quality assurance.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Deuce Loosely » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:21 pm

Just...wow!

As the "executive producer" for the AMV Salad series and assistant DH for Katsucon and AMA AMV department, I empathize with Vic. I can't believe Otakon of all conventions is treating one of its staple events like this. I don't care how loud I'd have to scream or how high up the ladder of authority I had to go, as much as I understand wanting to "give up" and "lose hope," I couldn't allow such shenanigans to go unchecked or uncalled. It's things like this that has a serious ripple effect if publicized.

Let's look at the decline so far. The con gets more expensive to attend, the events become less entertaining, the convention as a whole is more poorly run, I find myself spending more time hanging out and photographing than attending panels, and now this with the AMV and fan parody programming.

I'll say this much. If things go as badly as it presently sounds like it will, behind the scenes or in the public view, I won't hesitate to encourage everyone I can reach to withhold their membership next year in favor of another convention. If this is the path Otakon has chosen to continue along, I won't hesitate to take AMV Salad's future world premieres elsewhere (never mind my money and loyalty).

Don't get me wrong. I do hope things are straightened out and all is set right somehow. But if not I would hope any editors who entered this or in previous years think about making some other convention the premiere contest site.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Adv1sor » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:23 pm

yeah, but on the other hand, not going to the amv contest gives me more time for the dealer's room so...

Gratz to those that potentially made the cut. Hopefully your AMVs will be shown in a good way.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby CodeZTM » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:29 pm

/hopes everything goes well, and maybe I won't get OBJECTION'ED :lol:

Well, thank you again for everything Vic. :up:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:00 pm

Woot. I'm a finalist :D
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby dwchang » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:14 pm

See some names on there that I haven't seen in AMVs for awhile like Blood Sugar Productions and others that have impressed me so far like Lawrence Studios. Damn shame it'll be the first Otakon in 8 or 9 years I won't be attending :(.

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby machina21 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 pm

I should feel good, but something tells me that might be inappropriate. Congrats to everyone else and good luck. :up:

Its sucks your having so much trouble Vic. Bureaucracy,FOR GREAT JUSTICE! :bzz:

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Brakus » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:35 pm

VicBond007 wrote:Also here's the finalist list. Everything's already fucked up so if Otakon wants to revise this list and crush some more dreams, I don't care any more.

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I made it in AGAIN?! *faints*

Wow. Sometimes you make it in when you don't think you will! Thanks to the pre-screener attendees - you do have fine taste :)

In case we don't get to see the entries that didn't make the cut, I hope some kind of list of entries (or highlights thereof) will be posted so we can check them out for ourselves.

Congratulations to the finalists, and good luck in the contest!
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Scintilla » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:37 pm

A practical matter: If it turns out there is no overflow, do you know yet what would be the best way to get our AMV VIP passes, for those of us who entered the contest?
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby drewaconclusion » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:06 pm

VicBond007 wrote:
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Sorry about those of you who didn't get in. There were some really good gems that just couldn't make the cut. Too bad Otakorp thinks Ramen Fighter Miki is more important than you.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Honou_Miko » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:11 pm

drewaconclusion wrote:Quoted Image converted to link:
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This.

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