The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby dragontamer5788 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:43 am

VicBond007 wrote:Final DQ list is out. See first page.


Can't the lawyer still DQ one of the final videos?

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chui101 wrote:
irriadin wrote:Based on the number of videos, it doesn't look like many longer videos made the cut. There were 34 finalists last year and that was with the six minute time restriction in place.

Well, you can't statistically draw that conclusion without comparing the standard deviations of the lengths of the videos as well. Just because the means are similar doesn't mean the distribution of times is the same.


Somebody that understands statistics! Now that's rare. :awesome:


Even with the standard distributions... Not really. There are an infinite number of moments above the first and second moments (also known as average and standard deviation). There is skew and kurtosis (3rd and 4th moment)... and all the moments above them. Without making an assumption about the distribution, you can't really make a conclusion even if you did have the standard deviation. Although... I guess there'd only be 34 moments in the worst case (the conversion to a moment is equivalent to a Fourier Transform. So it'd be a Discrete Fourier transform and it'd have no more than 34 data points).

Take the 33 one-minute videos and a 1 hour 27 minute videos.... this has (approximately) the same standard deviation as a 16 videos -13 minutes long and 16 vids 16 minutes long. (yes, negative minutes :-p).

Basically, just because the means AND the standard deviations are the same... doesn't mean that the skew and the kurtosis is the same. The only thing we have is an average time of ~3.5 minutes and a minimum time of 1 minute. :awesome:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby CodeZTM » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:49 am

Classes don't start back for 2 days. I'd like to enjoy my ANOVAless and matched pairsless life for another day or two.

So....

HUR HUR. THERES >30 VIDEOS IN THE CONTEST.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby chui101 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:02 am

TsunamiX wrote:
Code wrote:
moonbunnychan wrote:That would be the best contest EVER.

...now I kinda want to make a 1 hour 33 minute video....


OOH. OOH. USE A vuvuzela! :bzz: :bzz: :bzz:

And include many people falling down dramatically.

And possibly a few guest appearances by Kanye West!
I'd vote for it. Greatest AMV contest troll ever! And then when it wins, they'll play it again at the award ceremony during Iron Editor! :O
And it's perfectly legal since it's not covered by the current "anti-trolling rule!"
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby msanogi » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:19 am

chui101 wrote:
TsunamiX wrote:
Code wrote:OOH. OOH. USE A vuvuzela! :bzz: :bzz: :bzz:

And include many people falling down dramatically.

And possibly a few guest appearances by Kanye West!
I'd vote for it. Greatest AMV contest troll ever! And then when it wins, they'll play it again at the award ceremony during Iron Editor! :O
And it's perfectly legal since it's not covered by the current "anti-trolling rule!"


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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby moonbunnychan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:14 pm

Ok, gotta get to work....I've got a year to complete my hour and a half epic masterpiece "Now That's What I Call Vuvzela!" and be the champion of the Otakon AMV Contest.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby alchemist4 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:04 pm

That's a short show for my 6 minute video, but I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway haha. Statistics and all (not that I pretend to know math lol)

I wonder if anyone submitted a video over 6 minutes...I could picture AMVs spanning 10-12 minutes to a variety of music. Some shows have so much depth to them its like they almost deserve a good lengthy video haha
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby VicBond007 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:29 pm

Just got back from the panic meeting. Schedule is assed up. We're bouncing the server between Main events, video 1, and panel 3. AMV Contest in Main Events will be played out of sync unless some major technical concessions are made. AMV Contest winners may or may not be announced at the con given the potential schedule. As it stands, AMV overflow does not exist. Your hard work has been bumped in favor of "big" DVD screenings. Also the first fan parodies block is being shown at noon on Friday, while everyone is still getting their badge.

This is subject to change, but when the con-chair tells you to "go home", I wouldn't hold my breath. Will keep ya'll updated. You guys are all wonderful and don't deserve any of this, but I am both defeated and tired. Baltimore is mad far yo :/
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby chui101 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:18 pm

VicBond007 wrote:Just got back from the panic meeting. Schedule is assed up. We're bouncing the server between Main events, video 1, and panel 3. AMV Contest in Main Events will be played out of sync unless some major technical concessions are made.

What do you mean "out of sync"? And which place is main events, 1st Mariner Arena? IIRC, Video 1 was where the AMV contest was last year, right?

VicBond007 wrote:AMV Contest winners may or may not be announced at the con given the potential schedule.

Wait, did they cancel Iron Editor? :shock:

VicBond007 wrote:As it stands, AMV overflow does not exist. Your hard work has been bumped in favor of "big" DVD screenings.

Sounds like we just need an even bigger DVD. Have you considered Laserdisc?

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby CodeZTM » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:20 pm

Soo... Revolt anybadeh? :awesome:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby VicBond007 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:28 pm

chui101 wrote:What do you mean "out of sync"? And which place is main events, 1st Mariner Arena? IIRC, Video 1 was where the AMV contest was last year, right?

Wait, did they cancel Iron Editor? :shock:

Sounds like we just need an even bigger DVD. Have you considered Laserdisc?


Main Events is one of the halls in the BCC. The 1st Mariner Arena is being used exclusively for the masquerade, while the rest of us have to juggle schedules and make compromises. A/V will be out of sync because we'd be putting our video scaler behind their video scaler, adding a big delay. This doesn't happen in Video 1 because we have a direct line to the projector, and I had to fight just to get that. Can't remove our scaler because it helps with the overscan and we use it for some minor color correcting. This is why you don't have "Otakon fraked up my video" posts. I make sure it's shown right the first time. Unions. Frak yeah.

Iron Editor is still on, but the AMV contest might not end in time to count the ballots, and show the winners at IE. It may even be after IE on Saturday leaving our award ceremony taking place at closing ceremonies, it at all. Because you all stick around for that...

The server has an SVHS deck. I can retrofit said slot with my Laserdisc player, but nobody sent in a Laserdisc video this year ;)
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby Honou_Miko » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:01 pm

alchemist4 wrote:I wonder if anyone submitted a video over 6 minutes...I could picture AMVs spanning 10-12 minutes to a variety of music. Some shows have so much depth to them its like they almost deserve a good lengthy video haha


Mine was ten. *shifty eyes* Had a video I worked my ass off on and nowhere to use it to compete, until I saw that... so I had to take advantage before they decide no time limit may be a bad idea.


...Are there still going to be multiple showings? Like, last year there was one on Friday and another on Saturday, correct? I'm sorry if I misread or missed anything, I had a long day at work. But there is a very good chance I won't be able to make the Saturday showing (church called me to sing a wedding the ONE weekend I told them I'd prefer not to; oh well, it's $200...) So if the only showing will be Saturday, I'm screwed. Even if I don't make the finals with my selfishly long-ass video I wouldn't want to miss the contest. It's such a highlight...
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby Castor Troy » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:05 am

Otakon's not turning into AX now, is it? :x :x :x :cry:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:19 am

Castor Troy wrote:Otakon's not turning into AX now, is it? :x :x :x :cry:


QUICKLY! EVERYBODY START MAKING "CONSTRUCTIVE" COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION! :ying:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby moonbunnychan » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:34 am

Man that sucks. I guess somebody didn't get the memo that the AMV contest is like...one of the biggest crowd drawing events. Even the overflow usually has a pretty decent amount of people in it.
All sad news indeed.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Postby TnAdct1 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:59 am

One thing worth asking: I wonder if there's a chance that programming may fix things in order to accommodate the AMV contest if enough people write to the staff about their concerns about the contest? After all, Otakon is meant to geared towards the fans (and if fans are afraid that the AMV contest will be treated poorly, they should inform the con of their concerns now while there's still time).

BTW, is the screening in Main Events on Friday or Saturday? I originally was thinking that the screening currently with problems will be taking place on Friday until I remembered that there's a concert on Friday (meaning that it may take place in Video Room 1 on Friday night while the concert is going on).
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