xstylus wrote:Castor Troy wrote:I think what gets into contests is what simply just appeals to the audience and judges. You can have all the best effects/timing/etc in the world, but if it's just not an engaging video, then an audience won't care for it.
BINGO.
While art for art's sake is nice and all, entertainment is the primary driving force of this event (IMHO). The best vids are ones that blend the two most effectively.
milkmandan wrote:If you truly want to improve, pay VERY CLOSE attention to the contest this year and see the quality of video that made it into the contest.
Try to match your video to that quality, do a little better, and chances are you'll get in, or have a much higher chance of getting in.
Thats how I did, thats how my brother does it, and so far it has never failed us.
milkmandan wrote:In part by why the AMtvpro category even came to fruition, as there were videos that hold effects/timing/etc above entertainment value.

Kazemon15 wrote: Do I need to mention how many people cheered when 5 Seasons of Evolution played on the big screen back in 2007 and the crickets chiripped when the Naruto AMV played right after it? It was something that we not seen on the big screen over and over again.
xstylus wrote:But then there's vids that are more subtle and meticulous... ...so much so that they require repeated viewing to fully appreciate. And its those vids that, I feel, we need to adjust our judging process to fully allow for. Such vids have been rather rare though.
milkmandan wrote:Niotex wrote:If possible I'd like to ask some of the judges [if possible] for feedback on the video at least. Considering the amount of work that went into it I'd like to know what exactly I've been doing wrong.
What Troy said as well, but honestly guys, for those that didn't make it into the finalist list.
If you truly want to improve, pay VERY CLOSE attention to the contest this year and see the quality of video that made it into the contest.
Try to match your video to that quality, do a little better, and chances are you'll get in, or have a much higher chance of getting in.
Thats how I did, thats how my brother does it, and so far it has never failed us.
a good way to improve is to also, have people beta your video. get people to watch your amv and critique. make the changes you feel are good ones and do it again.
creating an AMV is lilke writing an essay, freak if you could write a stunning essay on the first draft you got talent, but chances are this isn't the case. revise it multiple times and fix up the errors.
i guess lastly, and probably the hardest part, is to improve your technical skill. video editing is not easy. take some free time and learn some new techniques or even some motion graphics.
Thank you..xstylus wrote:While I'm not going to go into detail, those were not issues with Niotex's submission, so please don't assume.
That or people don't realize.Castor Troy wrote:I think what gets into contests is what simply just appeals to the audience and judges. You can have all the best effects/timing/etc in the world, but if it's just not an engaging video, then an audience won't care for it.
I'm flattered to have you say that Castor. Hypeo for life =]Nio's one of the best editors I know and I'm also surprised he didn't get in. I was also confident in my entries this year as well.
No that seemed pretty directed to me.milkmandan wrote:OH i know! i was just giving general advice.
i may quote, but i was speaking for the masses as a generalization.
Hence the plural usage in my sentence. "but honestly guys, for those that didn't make it into the finalist list."
Why would someone conform to the norm if what he's doing is moving the medium to a new composting quality level? That seems absurd to me. Just because pop music is popular doesn't make it good. The vast amount of popular garbage outweigh what we call actual music. The fact that you're preposing such a thing suggests that you have no intention of looking at anything on fair ground.true that, maybe instead of the word 'quality' in comment. try matching 'style'. (this would including an amv that has appeal to the judges/audiences/etc)
I think you need to update your category definitions then. And not have AMTV-Pro stand for 'Best Nostromo imitation'. Art for the sake of art aside. The fact remains that a category that was deemed specifically for technically advanced video's with a professional level of composting. Not to mention a very heavy emphasis on art. Get's shafted and ends up becoming 'what the mainstream likes'.xstylus wrote:BINGO.
While art for art's sake is nice and all, entertainment is the primary driving force of this event (IMHO). The best vids are ones that blend the two most effectively.
There is so much wrong with this statement..milkmandan wrote:In part by why the AMtvpro category even came to fruition, as there were videos that hold effects/timing/etc above entertainment value.
milkmandan wrote:Code wrote:I suppose you just have to swallow your pride and go mainstream audio/video with more public cons.
unfortunately, i kinda feel that sometimes
Amen.Sephiroth wrote:xstylus wrote:But then there's vids that are more subtle and meticulous... ...so much so that they require repeated viewing to fully appreciate. And its those vids that, I feel, we need to adjust our judging process to fully allow for. Such vids have been rather rare though.
Yea using effects is one thing. Using them to enhance your video rather then having them draw attention to them is more difficult.


Brad wrote:So, I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I still haven't gotten a solid answer. Can I still submit my video? :\


Sweeeet.... does it have to be an AMV? :\Niotex wrote:Brad wrote:So, I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I still haven't gotten a solid answer. Can I still submit my video? :\
Yes just give it to me and I'll bring it with me


Brad wrote:Sweeeet.... does it have to be an AMV? :\Niotex wrote:Brad wrote:So, I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I still haven't gotten a solid answer. Can I still submit my video? :\
Yes just give it to me and I'll bring it with me

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