Niotex wrote:MisterFurious wrote:Pwolf wrote:I havn't entered a video into AX for a few years because I didn't like how it was run
And here is where you admit that you are part of the problem. I'm sure you're not the only AMV creator who became disillusioned with AX following the fiascos of the lost videos. However, by not entering, all prideful editors have opened the door for lesser editors to create crap and be rewarded with nominations and, in some cases, awards.
It's simple math. AX needs to pull 28 videos from a pool of all entries. If that pool is smaller because people aren't entering, then the quality suffers. It's not rocket science.
Stop complaining about the quality, step up to the plate, and submit kick-ass videos! The contest will be all the better for it.
Do you realize you too are a huge part of the problem? If there is one person who is singlehandedly setting us back 7 years it is you sir. As all those "lesser" editors with their "crap" all come from that abortion you dare to call an "AMV workshop." If I had attended myself I would have probably drop kicked that arrogant smirk off your face right then and there. Those people deserve better than to listen to you circle jerking old men and talking about how great you once were, only to follow up with telling these poor people to encode to DV rather than lossless and de-interlace in Premiere.
However rather than indulging myself in drop kicking you in the face, I will take up your challenge and be sure to attend as well as submit to AX 2010. If only to to look down on a outdated old man who doesn't belong anymore. You are clearly what one would call "legacy rubbish." Decent once, but unable to get with the times.
See you next year Brad. Don't grin too much though as I might wipe the floor with you.
Pwolf wrote:I'm not talking about any one video specifically. I'm talking in general based on what I've read about the quality of the videos in the contest.
Yes, true, but we are talking about multiple videos with problems and a general consensus that the majority of the videos sucked.
Pwolf wrote:I know what he is saying and I disagree. I've been doing this for 9 1/2 years and I cannot watch a video without taking into consideration the technical challenges. If an editor doesn't fix the simple stuff, it makes them look lazy. There are situations where the editor might miss something but based on what i've read, the blatantly obvious errors should be fixed before the video is completed.
Pwolf wrote:I stopped sending to AX because I disagreed with the staff's decisions. I've waited the 2-3 years it's been with the new staff in hopes I would hear good things. Unfortunately I'm not hearing a lot of good coming out of it. Part of my rant here has to do with my overall frustration with how contest coordinators are managing their contests. It feels like they are getting lazy. We are basically allowing editors to disregard all the basics and fundamentals of video editing. A video should be judged based on the quality of the editing and that includes the technical aspect, not wither or not the audience is going to get a laugh.
You would've seen one of my videos in the contest if the coordinator allowed it (30 seconds too long). Its a little disheartening to hear about a video who's editor is lazy about making it presentable can enter the contest while a video who's editor spends a great deal of time and effort into making his video look the best can't enter the video because it's 30 seconds too long (which means nothing about how well the video is).

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:OK People, If this starts to become a flame war or attacks against one another then the thread WILL be locked! Constructive comments or dicussions of how the contest went or should go, etc are fine.... This will be the only warning
Vlad
Niotex wrote:Do you realize you too are a huge part of the problem? If there is one person who is singlehandedly setting us back 7 years it is you sir. As all those "lesser" editors with their "crap" all come from that abortion you dare to call an "AMV workshop." If I had attended myself I would have probably drop kicked that arrogant smirk off your face right then and there. Those people deserve better than to listen to you circle jerking old men and talking about how great you once were, only to follow up with telling these poor people to encode to DV rather than lossless and de-interlace in Premiere.
However rather than indulging myself in drop kicking you in the face, I will take up your challenge and be sure to attend as well as submit to AX 2010. If only to to look down on a outdated old man who doesn't belong anymore. You are clearly what one would call "legacy rubbish." Decent once, but unable to get with the times.
See you next year Brad. Don't grin too much though as I might wipe the floor with you.
Kisanzi wrote:Comedy was the most solid this year with videos that had a good deal of thought and difficult editing.
Kisanzi wrote:The contest event on the staff side was run the best in years. It started on time, no technical difficulties, had a large turnout, and the pre-show AMVs were a great touch that I hope keeps happening in future years.
Kisanzi wrote:x2. Very good idea Vlad. It doesn't make alot of sense for the general audience to be judging a category like pro that should be analyzing the entries on a professional and in-depth scale. And we need upbeat back for all the dance vids/etc. Just cut each category next year by one vid and you're more than half there guys.
Kisanzi wrote:Well, the contest this year was the weakest I've seen in years. As it's been said with the categorizing fiasco aside, many of the videos lacked the substance and editing expected of an AMV contest finalist, especially for a contest that gets hundreds of entries.
Castor Troy wrote:No, I still want to see more amv drama!

milkmandan wrote:If i were you, i'd download some of these videos and watch em yourself before reading into it :\ especially taking the view points of the critiques on this forum, some may be skewed. judge it for yourself
Pwolf wrote:True, I probably should download the finalist and see for myself, but I do give some weight to certain people's opinions so I feel like it would be a waste of time >.>

Pwolf wrote:Brad, I agree, but I didn't stop entering because they couldn't keep proper backups. I didn't agree with their decisions (wont go into it here). AX has always been one of the best contest i've enjoyed entering and it was hard to just stop.
And, I did step up to the plate and wanted to submit a "kick ass video". But the contest coordinator wouldn't allow it because it was too long, no exceptions. I waited half a year to submit the video and he wouldn't allow it. It's not my fault they don't want quality content.
Pwolf wrote:A video in an AMV contest should be technically sound as well as well edited. Since AMV contests don't have awards for the technical stuff, one should expect that the pre-judging would weed out the videos that don't meet a certain standard. The fact that the AMV coordinator(s) allowed videos with obvious technical and editing errors tells me that they do not care about the standards or the presentation of the video.
MisterFurious wrote:Pwolf wrote:I havn't entered a video into AX for a few years because I didn't like how it was run
And here is where you admit that you are part of the problem. I'm sure you're not the only AMV creator who became disillusioned with AX following the fiascos of the lost videos. However, by not entering, all prideful editors have opened the door for lesser editors to create crap and be rewarded with nominations and, in some cases, awards.
It's simple math. AX needs to pull 28 videos from a pool of all entries. If that pool is smaller because people aren't entering, then the quality suffers. It's not rocket science.
Rider4Z wrote:i admit i voted for The Goodship Lifestyle in action
people a lotta time tend to forget it's called "Action SLASH Adventure". it's not all about hand to hand / mecha to mecha combat kinda stuff that qualifies for this category.
LC_Lapen wrote:
Oh, and did somebody mention Tamales?.
Niotex wrote:Do you realize you too are a huge part of the problem? If there is one person who is singlehandedly setting us back 7 years it is you sir. As all those "lesser" editors with their "crap" all come from that abortion you dare to call an "AMV workshop." If I had attended myself I would have probably drop kicked that arrogant smirk off your face right then and there. Those people deserve better than to listen to you circle jerking old men and talking about how great you once were, only to follow up with telling these poor people to encode to DV rather than lossless and de-interlace in Premiere.
However rather than indulging myself in drop kicking you in the face, I will take up your challenge and be sure to attend as well as submit to AX 2010. If only to to look down on a outdated old man who doesn't belong anymore. You are clearly what one would call "legacy rubbish." Decent once, but unable to get with the times.
See you next year Brad. Don't grin too much though as I might wipe the floor with you.
Pwolf wrote:Nio: Calm down dude...milkmandan wrote:If i were you, i'd download some of these videos and watch em yourself before reading into it :\ especially taking the view points of the critiques on this forum, some may be skewed. judge it for yourself
True, I probably should download the finalist and see for myself, but I do give some weight to certain people's opinions so I feel like it would be a waste of time >.>
Pwolf
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