Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - RESULTS AND WINNERS

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Adv1sor » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:29 pm

WHAT! I DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE CUT!?! WELL SCREW um... A... um, that is to say, :roll:

Good luck to everyone who made the finals! Looking forward to another great show.

Bryan, you really put a lot into making these contest fun for everyone. I sincerely hope you continue to do these shows at AMA for a long long time.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby zeiram_00 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:56 am

i didn't make the cut either, but i'm not bothered by it. i'm still kinda new and the 2 i submitted were definitely pushing the pg-13 limit so its understandable i was cut. but i've looked up most of the finalist (action/drama categories cause thats what i submitted) and i have to say i'm not that impressed. yes a lot were technically impressive but beyond just flashy effects the vids themselves were not good. its videos like the ones chosen as finalists that have tarnished the ideals of amv's. like the current trend in movies to have lots of FX and quick changing camera angles to make action scenes look more furious (which actually fails miserably and makes the director or in the amv case, editor look like an idiot trying to cover up their poor talent). if i wanted an epileptic siezure i could find more pleasant and effective methods than watching some hack amv to some rediculously popular anime series thats most likely way overrated.

ok, so that kinda got a little insulting there but whatever its just my opinion and i don't care if i piss off some little kids.
good luck to all finalists.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby OtakuGT18 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:43 pm

zeiram_00 wrote:i didn't make the cut either, but i'm not bothered by it.


You know as someone who has seen these videos this sorta negates what you say later. Of course though, loads of people start posts like this to try and redeem themselves if they got 'something to say'.

zeiram_00 wrote: i'm still kinda new and the 2 i submitted were definitely pushing the pg-13 limit so its understandable i was cut. but i've looked up most of the finalist (action/drama categories cause thats what i submitted) and i have to say i'm not that impressed. yes a lot were technically impressive but beyond just flashy effects the vids themselves were not good.


lol opinions.

It's starting to sound like you're sore just because your video(s) were not chosen over those who were and maybe you aren't looking at the videos the same way those who judged it are. Just take that into consideration. Everybody views AMVs differently. At least you don't have yet another Naruto AMV set to Dragonforce, you know?


zeiram_00 wrote:its videos like the ones chosen as finalists that have tarnished the ideals of amv's.


What? I had the feeling that other than the niche that is con goers and AMV makers themselves, AMV's were NEVER taken seriously because it's usually just pre-made animation but used well and to the advantage (or disadvantage) of the video itself. Get your head out from your little cave buddy.


zeiram_00 wrote: like the current trend in movies to have lots of FX and quick changing camera angles to make action scenes look more furious (which actually fails miserably and makes the director or in the amv case, editor look like an idiot trying to cover up their poor talent). if i wanted an epileptic siezure i could find more pleasant and effective methods than watching some hack amv to some rediculously popular anime series thats most likely way overrated.


I doubt you really know the gravity of what videos were submitted prior to making the final cut (or not) to really make that judgment. There have been a lot worse videos that have been made that are submitted to either a-m-v.org or Youtube every day. Again, seems you're taking the idea of AMVs a little too seriously.

zeiram_00 wrote:ok, so that kinda got a little insulting there but whatever its just my opinion and i don't care if i piss off some little kids.
good luck to all finalists.


Sure is contradictory in here! You want to wish good luck to all finalists after bashing many of their talents (or the selection process itself) but yet go "I don't care if I piss off some little kids." just makes you look more immature than them, really.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Sonydjsnmix » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:16 pm

zeiram_00 wrote:i didn't make the cut either, but i'm not bothered by it. i'm still kinda new and the 2 i submitted were definitely pushing the pg-13 limit so its understandable i was cut. but i've looked up most of the finalist (action/drama categories cause thats what i submitted) and i have to say i'm not that impressed. yes a lot were technically impressive but beyond just flashy effects the vids themselves were not good. its videos like the ones chosen as finalists that have tarnished the ideals of amv's. like the current trend in movies to have lots of FX and quick changing camera angles to make action scenes look more furious (which actually fails miserably and makes the director or in the amv case, editor look like an idiot trying to cover up their poor talent). if i wanted an epileptic siezure i could find more pleasant and effective methods than watching some hack amv to some rediculously popular anime series thats most likely way overrated.

ok, so that kinda got a little insulting there but whatever its just my opinion and i don't care if i piss off some little kids.
good luck to all finalists.

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if you would like to see my videos then search for my username (same as here). zeiram_00
be sure to click on the C-Base Edition of my first vid :)


You know there are threads in the general section about this very same issue about today's amvs having no soul and all effects. I agree with your frustrations. BUT you have to look at reality! Audiences at cons loves effects. It is a fact. When there is a no effect video with a good story it usually requires one to know the story of the anime. With an audience with mixed viewing history it's really hard for that no effect video to please as many people like an effect filled pretty video can do. I really would not judge the worth of an amv based on con wins.

Although you are entitled to your own opinion you are coming off as a cry baby and as an "no effects, back in the day oldie amv" elitist that has been breaking out lately. My no effect with a story didn't make it to this one con last year. I didn't whine and I got over it. You should too.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby zeiram_00 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:41 pm

i'm not really whining all that much. i know my best work is yet to come and i don't care that much about audience awards (they're mostly popularity contests for the source video in it) the judges awards are were my concerns go. and i'm no old school 'elitist', its just that us older people disagree with the principles of the younger "kids" these days, but so happens between every generation anyway.

i knew the post would get under peoples skin but was just trying to stir up things (not start arguments but discussions) and was bored with seeing all the finalist posting the ' oh i made it, yay for me, good luck all '

and amv's are taken seriously, atleast by those that create them. it may not be original works of art themselves but one's personal expressions of creativity and at the same time a tribute to the orignal creators of the source materials.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby OtakuGT18 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:59 pm

zeiram_00 wrote:i'm not really whining all that much. i know my best work is yet to come and i don't care that much about audience awards (they're mostly popularity contests for the source video in it) the judges awards are were my concerns go. and i'm no old school 'elitist', its just that us older people disagree with the principles of the younger "kids" these days, but so happens between every generation anyway.



I understand if you disagree, but you really have come off as a whiner, and I wanted to know why. Also, good job not addressing much.

zeiram_00 wrote:i knew the post would get under peoples skin but was just trying to stir up things (not start arguments but discussions) and was bored with seeing all the finalist posting the ' oh i made it, yay for me, good luck all '


So basically you admit to trolling when you wanted to be taken seriously? Honestly? That makes no sense but oh well.


zeiram_00 wrote:and amv's are taken seriously, atleast by those that create them. it may not be original works of art themselves but one's personal expressions of creativity and at the same time a tribute to the orignal creators of the source materials.


I know, I already said that other than the AMV makers and the small niche of con goers and other fans AMVs are not taken too seriously so there isn't much to worry on there. I get where you're coming from but your intentions + way of going about it =/= understood opinion.

If you troll later, I suggest trying harder because you aren't making much of an impact.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Adv1sor » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:45 pm

Gene Starwind 21122 wrote:If you want to come to our amv Panels this year and sit in on them I could use some help there. I think we have all the contest stuff covered. Hopefully you'll enjoy this year's contest.
I'll try to sit in, but just in the audience. We will be killing werewolves by night and counting down the ten funniest AMVs of all time by day! http://www.animemidatlantic.com/downloads/AMA9Schedule.pdf Oh yeah, and watching another great AMV contest!

See you atthecon!
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Deuce Loosely » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:07 pm

Gene Starwind 21122 wrote:If you want to come to our amv Panels this year and sit in on them I could use some help there. I think we have all the contest stuff covered. Hopefully you'll enjoy this year's contest.

I spent most of AMA last year doing AMX-related stuff and it seems this year will be no different. What panels do you have lined up?
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:09 pm

How about we wait and see what actually happens before generalizing.

Frankly, you're asking to be judged either by coordinators, audience members or your peers when you enter a contest. I've also watched a video that thrilled contest coordinators and took "best of show" get a luke-warm response and watch a video surpass it as audience favourite.

Just this summer, I've had a video I made win and according to coordinators get a great response. I've sat and watched the audience be bored by it at another. And I've had the video not make the finals at other competitions.

Does it bother me that it didn't fare as well at the latter contests? No. Instead I'm going to try and tweak it and fix its flaws.
It's all about attitude. You can either make excuses or try to better yourself as an editor. You can accept that a video didn't do well and either roll with it or blame others.
Either way, your vision is not always going to match what people enjoy.

There's likely editors in that finalist list who've never made the cut before. Yes, they deserve encouragement no matter what your tastes might be. If you'd like to critique their videos, write an opinion, but this is not the place to belittle their success.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby drewaconclusion » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:46 pm

Moonlight Soldier wrote:I've also watched a video that thrilled contest coordinators and took "best of show" get a luke-warm response and watch a video surpass it as audience favourite.


I'm guessing you're referring to my Monolith Monsters trailer at Otafest?

As for the topic at hand, I think who wins really just boils down to the type of crowd/judge you're showing it to. I don't buy it for a second that who wins is largely based on the source material popularity.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Deuce Loosely » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:30 am

drewaconclusion wrote:As for the topic at hand, I think who wins really just boils down to the type of crowd/judge you're showing it to. I don't buy it for a second that who wins is largely based on the source material popularity.

In a way I agree, but not completely. At Katsucon, I was certain my comedy video would at lease make runner-up. The "DBZ Silent Movie" was a ringer. The video that actually did come in second for comedy turned out to be a 5:46 tribute to the men of Utena to the tune of - wait for it - "It's Raining Men." Someone decided to throw it into the contest just for reaction (and don't think it didn't get the "crazy yaoi fangirl" vote). It wasn't even amusing. The reaction was mostly girlish squeeing amid very few laughs. Mine was genuinely funny, but whatever. I guess there's something to be said for pandering... :roll:
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Brakus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:13 am

Hey, I didn't make the cut!

... wait, I didn't enter this year.

I didn't have an entry in time for AMA, but I do have one ready for Otakon, and if Bryan is having his AMV critique panel again, I will show it. Don't know if I'll repeat this year in making finals for Otakon, but here's hoping!

Good luck to all who are in the finals at AMA!
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby OtakuGT18 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:25 pm

deuceloosely wrote:Way off-topic, but any of you who will actually be attending AMA this year should make a note to come see AMV Salad 2 at my panel. I will also beta-test AMV Salad 3 before it premieres at Otakon next month and take any potential volunteers to contribute to AMV Salad 4 beginning July 20.

This year we had a theme: Commercials and Trailers. The entire main section of the video is fashioned after a half-hour programming slot on [adult swim].

Hey, Brian...need any assistance at all this year with anything?


Good job trying to advertise YOURSELF in this thread in the midst of a thread about the AMA 2009 AMV Contest. Isn't that...a little rude?

Also I'm sure if Bryan needed your assistance he'd tell us on the forums as an entirely new topic "Need New Staff!" on the forums.

Anyways, however the contest looks I'll be looking forward to it, it sounds exciting!
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:59 pm

OtakuGT18 wrote:Good job trying to advertise YOURSELF in this thread in the midst of a thread about the AMA 2009 AMV Contest. Isn't that...a little rude?

Also I'm sure if Bryan needed your assistance he'd tell us on the forums as an entirely new topic "Need New Staff!" on the forums.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Postby Gene Starwind 21122 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:19 pm

Okay everybody cool off. It's not that big of a deal. I'm looking forward to this weekend. Let's have fun and enjoy the contest.
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