Empath wrote:@ jade_eye_angle
way to butcher Rina's screen name... you know her videos didn't make it into the contest at all either and she came to A-kon all the way from NEW YORK...
I would have been perfectly content with the Comedy catagory if there were more Comedy videos in the Comedy catagory. Hell, they could have banned Naruto Shorts 3 from the con permanetly without a care from me as long as they had a few videos that were way funnier. But no, the polluted the catagory most con-goers come to see.
The category isn't "comedy".... you should you know READ
the site a little more carefully next time. The category is "comedy/FUN
". The videos you were complaining about were considered "Fun" videos... just because you loop duck butt
into "drama" doesn't mean that others don't think that duck butt isn't fun
. Apparently the judges felt that the "Fun" videos were a lot better than the all these amazing comedy videos that were supposedly sent in... This is one of the reasons why I talked to the coordinator about the issues with how they categorize the videos.
Also as I mentioned before, the videos weren't judged on the categories, they were judged on several different criteria such as presentation and other things, so if all these amazing comedy videos didn't live up to their score standard then they would have been cut... it wasn't about what category it was in so much as what scores the videos got from the judges. Videos were only cut due to the fact they didn't get a high enough score.
I actually did talk to the Video Director directly, as well as a few others, in a very level headed matter.
I figured you were the group that delayed me from picking my award from last year
... It's fairly easy to tell from your post...
The reason I ranted afterwards is because they felt that they did absolutely no wrong.
Well you know you did sign up and agree to their terms.... And the terms of this contest is that you have to have a minimum score in order to make it in the contest... It's written on their site... And if the judges didn't give you that score then you didn't make it in. That is just how it is... if they cut my videos I would be disappointed but I would also understand that by signing up for their contest I am also agreeing to how they run their contest. Perhaps you should do a bit more research into what you are joining next time?
Even after we pointed out the small flood of Drama that found it's way into Comedy, and noted the rather large amount of people who were leaving or heckling, everyone seemed to take the stance of "Well, it's just how the judges felt that day. And we aren't here to appease anyone but ourselves." I mean, why even have catagories at that point. Why not just say "Hey, this is what these 7-9 people thought was awesome. Everything else was trash to them. Good day."
Once again, this is a JUDGED contest, it's not an audience vote contest... yes there is an audience vote but for the most part most major contests (even ones that run solely on audience vote) do a lot of trimming and deciding before they choose the finalists...
I'm curious, have you ever entered a major contest before? or is this your first time at a large/competitive
First off, why bother even having catagories when your going to let one completely dominate over the other two?
"However after talking to the coordinators we learned that the videos were not
judged on how well they fit into the categories but on how well they were made/scored, the categories were just there to give the chance of giving out a few more awards... They could drop off all the categories all together and just give best in show and a runner up if they really wanted, but they want to have the chance to give back more to people who contribute to the contests.
I think you missed part of my post there... O.o
And the worst part is having more Drama bleed into other catagories.
Should I also mention that this "Drama" category that you are complaining about isn't just drama? but it is also "Drama/ROMANCE
"? and once again just because YOU think something is drama, perhaps someone else will see it as fun...
COMEDY/FUN =/= COMEDY ONLY
Okay, I get it, the staff doesn't have the balls to tell people that their Drama video they submitted to Comedy is being moved to Drama.
But if you think it's fair that a mass of Action and Comedy videos got cut because Drama videos weren't being moved, or you agree that judges should vote with a pre-set bias, then I guess these words will fall on deaf ears.
I didn't see the videos you are complaining about as "Drama" but more so as "Fun"...
I agree with the way they judge the videos to get into the contest... I kinda like the idea that the videos are scored on several different variables to make sure that they were up to par with other videos that they are competing against. It is also a "Blind" contest so that the judges don't favor people/editors that they know or like, and I really like that.
However I do still believe that "category confusion" is a problem with this contest for the very reasons I mentioned to the coordinator at the con.... especially with how drastically different the categories are that got looped together...
A-kon is also working out several kinks, they run 3 different contests, and don't have the money to give everyone a trophy so they looped a few categories together such as comedy and fun. They know that there are some issues still to work out and they are still looking for suggestions to make the contests better..
My group of friends was even given opportunity to give them such feedback at the con, but that could be perhaps because none of us whined about how our video didn't make it in (and yes some of us even got several of our videos cut) when the ones that did make it in we didn't like (I can name 4 videos off the top of my head)....
However pissing and moaning that you and your friend's videos were "way better" or "more funny" than the videos that made it into the contest or that the contest was "SUCK AND FAIL" isn't a way to get people to listen to your concerns... And, yes, even in your second post you STILL come off that way.
There were only 3 videos cut from comedy/fun and that was ONLY because they didn't get the minimum score that they needed.. so much for all your "amazing videos" 3 doesn't sound like a whole lot to me O.o (And I personally know one of the people who got their video cut from that category... She didn't seem to have much of an issue with it, but she submits to contests for fun, not so much to compete...)
Perhaps this should motivate you to improve your quality and put out a better video next year, instead of complaining that the comedy submissions weren't funny enough... if you want more comedy videos in the comedy/fun category then make sure you improve your quality and submit more comedy videos, perhaps next year they will drown out all those horrid "fun" videos that bore you so much?