Mindwarp Contest

Hakura · Post by **Hakura** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 1:26 pm

Exactly ^^

Everything I make is ALWAYS for myself first ^^ I don't care if people bash it ^^ I made I like it and thats what matters ^^ Contests..meh...fun but I go just to match my vid on the big screens and see reactions ^^ Winnning is just a bonus ^^

It's my hobby and an art form to me ^^ If it's not fun for you....don't do it....making for competition only leads to hard feelings and tension..

Hitori · Post by **Hitori** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 2:05 pm

Also, don't enter competitions or contests if you expect to win. I send mine out to contests and competitions to get more exposure. This is with no expectations on winning. Winning is only a plus and thus more exposure and the ability to create better AMVs. Ask yourself when you enter videos into a contest, "is this for personal gain or personal satisfaction?" It's all fun for me and I didn't expect much when I sent my videos in to the MindWarp contest. Both of my videos made it to 2nd day judging and one got an Honorable Mention for Best Horror. That was a big plus. But hey, I'm happy and having fun!!

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 2:19 pm

Ask your self "Really, what am I responding to" before you post. Does your speech actually have a bearing on what others have said before, or are you simply longing for an opportunity to break out your soap box and preach to the chior? Have you even read what other people have posted, or are you simply reading only what you want to and ignoring the rest?

TokyoU15 · Post by **TokyoU15** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 6:10 pm

ok lemme start, good things: helluva good job getting everything done on time. That's just fucking great, unlike some more "PRO" con contest *coughAXcough*, MindWarp keeps everyone updated.

They know good AMV's when they see them, all the winners (well the ones i've seen so far) are great! good shit.

MindWarp Offers as much as possible without letting anyone down. Great contest, but because they do run a great contest, that doesn't mean there aren't certain bad things. I've mentioned them enough so just scroll up and find out. All in all, definatly one of the best contests period.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 8:53 pm

Yes I'll have to agree to that. Mindwarp contest is one of the best one's out there. It's held twice a year dammit! That's double the fun of any other contests. It's its an online contest, so its sooo much easier to enter it. Sure, your not getting the video shown to a large crowd, but hey, it's an online contest ^_^
Now hey, I was a little disappointed my video didn't even make it to the 2nd round, but its the people's honest opinions, you can't argue that. If they happened to put something in the wrong category, who is to say that its wrong. THEY are the judges, and the category it goes in is what the video appears as to THEM. I seriously doubt they are sitting there thinking "hey, lets just toss this vid over in the horror section, I bet it'll REALLY piss some people off!" Any AMV contest ANYWHERE is merely opinon. It is purely subjective. There is no scientific measure of "this video is better than that one" or "this video must go into this category". It is all merely opinion, something that we all differ on. If you disagree with someone else's opinon, it isn't right to make them fell like their opinon is wrong, as for all you know, your opinion could be the wrong one. But in reality, opinion is not white or black, but merely shades of grey. I'll bet I just ripped off some quote right there didn't I ^_^

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:34 pm

And some shades of grey are lighter than others. All opinions may be valid, but all opinions are not equal. You even stated yourself that some opinions may be wrong. And please demonstrate how there isn't a quantitative and objective way to determine how one video is better than another. And if all contests are purely subjective, it wouldn't matter how informed a judge is, as all of the data they have amassed would be simply thrown out when they issue a ruling.

I just like to argue.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:31 pm

Dammit, you're trying to make me think, aren't you? :p
"And please demonstrate how there isn't a quantitative and objective way to determine how one video is better than another." Simply because it is IMPOSSIBLE to judge art in such a way due to its very nature. You cannot see every thought that went through the creator's mind when they were creating it. You cannot know every single edit that they made to the footage. You are INTERPRETING someone else's work. In a scientific process, everything is laid out straight. This equal this because of this. You can't say that with art. Some people think "Engel" is the greatest AMV known to man. Some people (myself included) believe its WAY overhyped. Some people think its a better video than I think it is. So is either of us wrong? Can you measure an actual amount of quality in the video? Can you say "This video is 99% perfect" and prove it an a way that everyone in the community could agree with you? Of course not.

"And if all contests are purely subjective, it wouldn't matter how informed a judge is, as all of the data they have amassed would be simply thrown out when they issue a ruling."
In the end, it all really comes down to either "Which video did I enjoy watching the most", or "which video appeared to me to have the most effort put into it", or "which video was pulled off with the most apparent overall quality?" That's simply the way it is.

"You even stated yourself that some opinions may be wrong."
Hmmm, my opinion on that issue was wrong. An opinion cannot be right or wrong.
Wait a minute.....
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alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:46 pm

But all thoughts are simply comprised of electrical and chemical signals being batted from one neuron to another. Events are stimulie with defined sets of forces acting on defined objects. Each event leaves a distinct effect on its surroundings. Is it unreasonable to assume that the evolution of Chaos Theory will allow us to detect such things? Of course human beings are clouded by emotions and desires, and this allows something as simple as counting ballots to become a national controversy, but a machine, on the otherhand, has none of these failings. So why would it be impossible to build a machine to simply choose the best? Psychologists, mathematians, historians and social theorists can program the critera.

Anyway, your post simply used your premise to prove your premise. Does that really make any sense?

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:56 pm

Um... and I like beef, too.

edoggy · Post by **edoggy** » Tue Jul 02, 2002 1:23 pm

alternatefutures is a debating beast wow, you go man hitem up with that wit boy. haha anyway i posted a question a on the last page but people were still arguing and it got annoyed. could anyone tell me where the opinions or reviews for the mindwarp contest are goin to be posted. it said so in the rules that each contestant would recieve atleast one opinion on animemusicvideos.org and i was just wondering where?
sorry to interrupt the arguing

if someone could let me know before they start arguing again i would greatly apreciate it.

edoggy
"isnt this where im supposed to put a clever quote?"