Questions on the JACON 2004 AMV Contest.

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Postby Corran » Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:55 am

I'm not complaining. I am going to Jacon as well. :)

I'm just trying to open minds...
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Postby Kwasek » Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:26 am

Same here, I was trying to show Machine a reason for a con to do something like that. I can understand people not being able to attend cons and such. That's why I mentioned entering into other cons that could use it. I know many of you have seen the posts or recieved emails from other cons around the country in need of videos.

However, some cons want there own personalized contest. I happen to like the action of Jacon's rules. All new material and a way to try to have the editors present. Especially after AWA8 Master winner wasn't in attendance, it's a let down for the crowd, at least it was for me. The way Jacon's contest is now makes the actual event very enjoyable and runs very smoothly.

Instead of complaining about a con's guidelines you don't agree with, just don't enter into it. If enough people feel the way you do then the contest cordinator would realize there contest won't work and would have to change the rules. As Paizuri stated, not much, if anything, has changed in this contest since last year.
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Postby Machine » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:18 am

Well, I can see your reasoning behind the purchase of membership to make sure that everyone who enters is there.

But at the same time, why not jsut ask the simple question:
Will you be attending the CON? If that person says no, the the video head should keep that under consideration. If yes, then everything is fine.

Why the whole thing of having to purchase a weekend badge simply to let your video be played. I know this is the second year that this is happening, that's why its surprising to me. I can understand one year of it..but now two??

Even AWA doesn't do that for their masters. Sure some people may not be there but their videos still get played. It's obviously not Matt's fault that the AWA8 masters winner wasn't there.


Another reason I bring this up now is because my situation along with a few other people is still pending on whether or not I'll be able to make to JACON. I may be flying or driving there from Texas...or maybe not go at all. I'm not going to know until a week or two before JACON. This doesn't really give me a chance to enter a video unless having payed the badge fee.

And if I buy the badge over the net, how will i know if I will still being able to show up even after I've purchased a badge? The deadline is April 30th via FTP right?

Can someone then elaborate on this for me?
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Postby Machine » Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:21 am

Hang on, I read Kwasek's previous post on page 1.

Although say Vlad had the intentions of coming...that still seems as an entry fee more along the lines of a contest's insurance policy.

If he couldn't make it, I'm sure JACON wont care since they already got his membership/entry fee.
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Postby dwchang » Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:57 am

Machine wrote:I know this is the second year that this is happening, that's why its surprising to me. I can understand one year of it..but now two??


It's not surprising given the quality and number of entries submitted to JACON regardless of this rule. As Kwasex said, if people disagree, don't submit and in turn, if the contest suffers, snackpants will have to change the rules to accomodate.

At the same time, since he gets plenty of quality entries and plenty of editors being present, he doesn't need to accomodate or beg for entries. In fact, next to Otakon, this was probably the 2nd best contest I've seen in terms of the quality of entries.

It's quite simple in reality, if you don't agree with the rules, don't submit. It's their contest and they're free to run it however they want and you in turn are free to follow them or go elsewhere. And afterall, it is just a contest and it's not like there aren't literally hundreds to submit to if you wanna just see your video or whatever.

I wonder if snackpants will reply since I imagine he could elaborate further on his rules (not that I think any coordinator needs to justify their rules for their own contest).
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Postby Dannywilson » Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:36 pm

Jimmyen wrote:Frankly, I hate seeing the same videos at cons over and over, as well. If everyone only submitted to the cons they attended, there'd be an awful lot more diversity among the entrants. The lesser known editors (whom I'm to assume all this hullaballoo is on behalf of, since it's not as though Vlad or Machine or DannyWilson et al are in any particular way unknown) would likely fare a lot better if videos that have already been shown at so many cons weren't there to occupy screen time.


For the record, I've only ever submitted to two cons, out of the 8 I've been to, one which wasnt even a contest, and more of an expo (no winners). I just show up to cons and have fun. I AM relatively unknown in the grand scheme of things.
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Postby Hitori » Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:28 pm

Dannywilson wrote:For the record, I've only ever submitted to two cons, out of the 8 I've been to, one which wasnt even a contest, and more of an expo (no winners).
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