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Postby XenoDrake » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:03 pm

i wasent going to post here, but i see that no one is looking in the right direction, so here is my $0:02

so lets set this up so that it makes more sence. and maybe it will help everyone.

i make music. im by no means good, like third earth here, but i DO make it. for fun no less, as i am also sure that third earth does. i have made a few songs, nothing to big, but yea, i made a few songs. makign up my own melodies too, not just rehashing some premixed beats that came with my sampler.

now, lets go path A. and on path A i make an AMV to my own song, using something like Trigun. do i call up ADV and ask them if i can? most likly no. should i? yes. has anyone here ever done that? not to my knowing, and yes, i know about AD and his Noir amv, not the same, they came to him. so yea, i did something i shouldent have done. i stole ADVs footage without asking them. now, their is not a single person here that would say that what i did was wrong. not at all. well, ok, so yea, it is wrong, but unlike what i see going on here in this thread, no one would think twice about it.

now, path B, i host my song. let people download it. give it out to all my freinds. put it up on mp3.com or something. just let people listen to it for fun. and by chance, someone here gets it, and is moved to make an AMV to it. course, as almost no one here does, they DONT ask me to use it, and i just happen to find it on local or something. now THIS amv is totaly wrong, not only did they not even ask me, they didnt ask whoever made the footage if they could us it. and again, no one would think twice about this. and hell, if i found one of my songs made into an AMV, id be very happy, exstatic even! but even if i was totaly outraged, would that stop AMVs? maybe done to my music, but all the stealing would still go on and no one would think twice about it.

now, path C. i made this song. i want an AMV made to it. but i cant, im just not moved by it. or what ever, i lost Premiere or something. for some reason i just cant, and so, i come here, and i post in the sudgestions forum about this song and that hey, maybe someone should make an AMV to it. this happens all the time. nothing seems to be wrong with it. weather or not im trying to make it big in the music indrustry, why is that wronger then paths A and B?

simple fact is, we are all already stealing footage, all the time. and the issues of this has been beaten to death a hundread times over. if you dont like his idea, then just dont post. jbone and dokool are both right, but third earth is likewise not at fault. what if aerosmith came here asking someone to make an AMV for them? would you bitch at them as much? and whats the difrence, that they have money?

curently i am waiting for a return email from ADV. i wanted to know from them just how much it would cost to buy the rights to use their footage in an AMV, a totaly leagel AMV mind you. when i get a responce, ill post it, as it would make intresting reading =P

in the mean time, let all artest be what they are. this guy wants someone to make an AMV to his song, is that so wrong? i say no, and i for one will at least listen to the songs he has before i just dismiss him totaly, and especaly on such losse grounds as "oh no, i might get sued if i made this AMV"

as if you didnt already know that with all your other AMVs :roll:


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Postby dwchang » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:18 pm

I haven't read this entire thread and my reply isn't based on it, but....

Does anyone else find it odd/funny that this is in the "AMV Contest" forum? :lol:
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Postby dokool » Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:34 pm

dwchang wrote:I haven't read this entire thread and my reply isn't based on it, but....

Does anyone else find it odd/funny that this is in the "AMV Contest" forum? :lol:


Maybe so many people flamed this guy in the General AMV forum that he figured this was safer =)

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Postby ladydx » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:37 pm

XenoDrake wrote:
in the mean time, let all artest be what they are. this guy wants someone to make an AMV to his song, is that so wrong? i say no, and i for one will at least listen to the songs he has before i just dismiss him totaly, and especaly on such losse grounds as "oh no, i might get sued if i made this AMV"

as if you didnt already know that with all your other AMVs :roll:


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In both your A & B secenarios..no one is using the said vid to promote anything..it's been done for the personal enjoyment of someone.

The problem is..if I've been reading this thread correctly..it's not that he just wants an AMV made for this particular song..one that he'll keep on his HD or on CD for his own personal use. He wants one to be made to PROMOTE the band.

third earth wrote:3. there is no profit directly to be made off of this video it is for promotional purposes.


No profit directly from said vid..but profit to be made none the less. That in itself causes me to shy away from it. It's a little different when you get an e-mail or PM from an individual that asks you to make a certian song/anime combo because they think it'll work well (something like what our suggestion forum does in fact)

As far as being sued..your right..any one of us on this site could be sued for what we've done. But the thing is..we're not taking a vid we've made and pretty much waving it in the face of someone who could do just that. Which is what I'd think using a vid for a bands promotional purpose could do.

(although if you take into consideration about the AMVs shown at cons, I suppose you are doing that in a way, but I've yet to see someone that's shown a vid at a con have something like that happen. I feel that anime companies that are at said cons tend to veiw things like that as free advertisement or as just fan appreceation, and they KNOW no money is being made off of said vids)

All in all...this just sounds like a risk that I myself wouldn't be willing to take.
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Postby wolf_hunter » Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:37 pm

dwchang wrote:I haven't read this entire thread and my reply isn't based on it, but....

Does anyone else find it odd/funny that this is in the "AMV Contest" forum? :lol:


its like your yoda :wink:


everytime you come in and say something and thats IT


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