make a video for roosevelt franklin, you know you wanna

third earth · Post by **third earth** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:46 pm

hey not so much a contest but an open call.

roosevelt franklin is an underground independent hip-hop group from nyc consisting of mr len from company flow and kimani rogers from the masterminds.

they recorded a song called insomnia 411 which also has slug from atmosphere and jean grae on it.

the song is about 6 minutes long, pretty dark and emotional.

anyhow it's gonna be a single in the top of 2004 on third earth music. we're distributed by caroline and want to make the dopest anime music video that we can in hopes maybe we can get some quality airplay and create a bigger buzz.

you can read more about roosevelt franklin in the upcoming entertainment weekly's "listen to this" segment in december.

you can hear the song right here...

http://www.thirdearthmusic.com/real/3EM-020/15.ram

anybody who has some talent and would be interested please email us at mmindsnyc@aol.com

thanks
http://www.thirdearthmusic.com

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:25 pm

Weren't you the same person who was spamming a bunch of people asking them to make these AMVs?

-DOKool

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:23 pm

Obviously, I'm going to make a video for a spammer who understands neither capitalization nor copyright law.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:59 pm

jbone wrote:Obviously, I'm going to make a video for a spammer who understands neither capitalization nor copyright law.

third earth · Post by **third earth** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:08 pm

ok first off if i don't wanna type in capitals i really don't have to. it's quicker for me.

secondly i'm not quite hip to your spamming terminology. i don't what that means. if you are referring to me emailing a bunch of people asking if they would make a video for one of our songs, then yes that is me.

i didn't realize that that was against the code or anything like that.

if you aren't interested in doing it then fine, but i can do without the holier than thou attitude.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:40 pm

third earth wrote:if you aren't interested in doing it then fine, but i can do without the holier than thou attitude.

It's not a Holier Than Thou attitude. It's a Cover Your Ass attitude. There's a difference between making a personal music video and creating a music video for the purposes of a record label's promotion

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:38 pm

third earth wrote:ok first off if i don't wanna type in capitals i really don't have to. it's quicker for me.

And if I want to ridicule you for not properly capitalizing or punctuating your sentences, I can. It's entertaining to me, and we both know I'm right.

third earth wrote:secondly i'm not quite hip to your spamming terminology. i don't what that means. if you are referring to me emailing a bunch of people asking if they would make a video for one of our songs, then yes that is me.

i didn't realize that that was against the code or anything like that.

Unsolicited commercial e-mail is not legal. Shall we alert your ISP that you have been using your e-mail account to send out unsolicited commercial e-mail?

third earth wrote:if you aren't interested in doing it then fine, but i can do without the holier than thou attitude.

I'm not being holier-than-thou, I'm mocking you.

third earth · Post by **third earth** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:24 pm

dude what commercial email am i sending out? i'm not selling viagra or penis pumps. i was asking 8 people. 8 people i emailed mind you. all who run amv sites. if they would be interested in doing a video for me.

and then i made this post. if that is spamming. then whatever.

i run an indie label out of my living room. i'm not sony or mca. how else do you suggest i asked the people on those sites? if the 45 seconds it took you to read my request was a strain on your life, i'm sorry for wasting your time.

i don't really wanna argue about this. i just don't really understand why you're being such an asshole. but i guess you are right that's you right.

Onideus_Mad_Hatter · Post by **Onideus_Mad_Hatter** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:50 pm

I just want you to know that you're ALL wrong...really, I'm just like, "Hrmm...which side to attack first..." o_O

I'm indier than all of yer lame asses! Oh yeah! McFrontalot is the only one whose indier than thou...er me...er...probably no one is actually gonna get the reference. *sigh* Why do I bother?

jbone · Post by **jbone** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:55 pm

third earth wrote:dude what commercial email am i sending out? i'm not selling viagra or penis pumps. i was asking 8 people. 8 people i emailed mind you. all who run amv sites. if they would be interested in doing a video for me.

and then i made this post. if that is spamming. then whatever.

i run an indie label out of my living room. i'm not sony or mca. how else do you suggest i asked the people on those sites? if the 45 seconds it took you to read my request was a strain on your life, i'm sorry for wasting your time.

i don't really wanna argue about this. i just don't really understand why you're being such an asshole. but i guess you are right that's you right.

Just because you're "indie" doesn't mean you're not "commercial." You, a commercial entity, sent unsolicited e-mail to eight people, requesting that they do something illegal for your profit.

How do you ask people? You post here. But when people have already received your messages and think of you as a joke because you sent them unsolicited e-mail before posting here, don't be surprised if we treat you as one when you arrive.

If you'd known anything about the medium before you sent the spam, you would've known better than to spam known editors.

I'm not being an asshole, I'm simply a concerned individual making direct - albeit sarcastic - responses to someone who quite obviously has not fully thought through his or her requests or method of said requests, and who shirks the English language like one would shirk jury duty in an anarchaic nation.

You may see yourself as trying to benefit musical talent, but I ask you: What benefit does the musical talent gain through the creation of a video that the band is not legally allowed to show anywhere, or for any reason? How can a band's name get out when it can't show its videos? Rather, you could have simply stated that you're running an indie label, and you wish to recruit people to help edit _music videos_ - drop the word "anime." I'm sure your musical acts already have some video footage from converts or whatnot, you'd just need to find people to make the sucky VHS-recordings _look good,_ and maybe add in some public-domain or home-recorded stuff, or a small enough amount of appropriated footage so as to be legal. I assure you, there are people on these forums with the talent to do just that. However, you did not think things through, you chose an invalid path, and you are now receiving ridicule from people who all believe you to be a joke - because we had discussed your eight unsolicited commercial e-mail messages before your arrival on these forums, and what you had asked and the method in which you had asked appeared too stupid to the trained eye to be worth any more than ridicule.

I admit, you probably had good intentions. But along with good intentions must come good actions and good presentation of said actions, else the intention is worthless.

...And, for your information, I get plenty of spam that's not about viagra or penis pumps. Some of it is about loans.