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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:01 pm

TROAL wrote:
3) Audience acclaim is a poor indication of certain categories like "Best Editing, Best Choice of Music, or Most Original". The average fan is not an AMV maker, just an AMV watcher, so categories like this are better left to a panel of savvy judges.

I apologize if this is a repeat of previous comments. Just wanted to add my two cents.


That's the reason the contests I'm coordinating have best video voting by audiance, as well as a best video by judging. All the best artistic, etc catagories art judged as well... This is the best way I found on balancing the two.... This is not to say other contests are not fair or do it wrong, I thing it's great having a variety of methods applied at many different contests and some work better at a particular convention. Since there are so many contests thease days, people can always choose which to enter if judging to them is an issue....

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Re: Audience Judging

Postby wwf_htm » Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:56 am

Nappy wrote:
wwf_htm wrote:I went to AX last year and I'd swear that the video that combined Cowboy Bebop and Dragonballz was getting more of a reaction that the video that actually won the comedy award. The way the announcer decided which video was the winner told me 2 things - the announcer decided that there is no way a Dragonballz video should win top honors at AX and/or he decided to let the guy that was going to coordinate the contest next year win. Having a ballot system would remove all doubt that the video that won was what most people wanted to win. Now I'm not trying to diss the video that actually won. I liked it a lot. However, I also think that the way it won was a little shady and that any doubt would have been eliminated had the judging system been better.

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Umm DBZ wasn't in comedy for one, two it didn't get more applause that the run off for comedy did which was spectacular and 6 mins. Now maybe in that runoff their lil meter was maxed out and they just gave it to the coordinator who knows. DBZ was in action and lost to chemicals which had more applause but from the back rows and balcony :/ and chemicals won, and even the creator was suprised, ppl later argued that it would have won for his comedy and not action anyways, and if it was in comedy I don't think it woulda beat out the other two....

hmm... it was in action? whichever category it was it, i'd swear that it got a bigger reaction. and yeah, if it won, it probably would have been for its comedy aspect and that'd suck if that were the case. i think someone suggested this, but i'll say it again - the people coordinating this event should choose which category to put the videos in. also, maybe there should be a separate action+comedy section 'cause i see those a lot. putting that aside and getting back to whether using a noise meter is good - i still say it sucks except for maybe the fan favorite award.

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Postby Declan_Vee » Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:27 pm

1. Fan switches should be labelled :wink:
2. Budget for a repeat of the competiton finalists/entrys on the next day of the convention. This way if all hell breaks loose on the original timeslot, you'll have a backup plan, and time to repair any damage.
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Re: Audience Judging

Postby Nappy » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:34 pm

wwf_htm wrote:
Nappy wrote:
wwf_htm wrote:I went to AX last year and I'd swear that the video that combined Cowboy Bebop and Dragonballz was getting more of a reaction that the video that actually won the comedy award. The way the announcer decided which video was the winner told me 2 things - the announcer decided that there is no way a Dragonballz video should win top honors at AX and/or he decided to let the guy that was going to coordinate the contest next year win. Having a ballot system would remove all doubt that the video that won was what most people wanted to win. Now I'm not trying to diss the video that actually won. I liked it a lot. However, I also think that the way it won was a little shady and that any doubt would have been eliminated had the judging system been better.

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Actually they do move stuff, they moved my drama to comedy, but I said in the entry they could move it if they wanted cuz its kinda both. o_o
Umm DBZ wasn't in comedy for one, two it didn't get more applause that the run off for comedy did which was spectacular and 6 mins. Now maybe in that runoff their lil meter was maxed out and they just gave it to the coordinator who knows. DBZ was in action and lost to chemicals which had more applause but from the back rows and balcony :/ and chemicals won, and even the creator was suprised, ppl later argued that it would have won for his comedy and not action anyways, and if it was in comedy I don't think it woulda beat out the other two....

hmm... it was in action? whichever category it was it, i'd swear that it got a bigger reaction. and yeah, if it won, it probably would have been for its comedy aspect and that'd suck if that were the case. i think someone suggested this, but i'll say it again - the people coordinating this event should choose which category to put the videos in. also, maybe there should be a separate action+comedy section 'cause i see those a lot. putting that aside and getting back to whether using a noise meter is good - i still say it sucks except for maybe the fan favorite award.

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Postby Cybermat » Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:31 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:That's the reason the contests I'm coordinating have best video voting by audience, as well as a best video by judging. All the best artistic, etc categories art judged as well... This is the best way I found on balancing the two.... This is not to say other contests are not fair or do it wrong, I thing it's great having a variety of methods applied at many different contests


That's one of the cool things about the existence of so many convention (and non-convention) AMV contests these days: people can try anything they think will work well, and see what flies and what tanks.

The nice thing about technical stuff is that it can be "perfected" in the sense that technical knowledge can be shared, and mistakes once made need not be repeated.

The nice thing about non-technical stuff is that anything goes. AMV Screenings can be competitive or non-competitive; they can be as structured or as unstructured as desired; contest winner(s) can be determined by many valid methods--fan vote, peer review, or a panel of judges.

The tough part about doing a contest is balancing the desires of all the parties involved... AMV makers would like as much exposure as possible, but any con has limited space & time to share between all of its various activities... audiences can only sit still for screenings of certain durations... contest staffers are never numerous enough to implement all the ideas there are.
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