The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Results All Up in Here

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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Warlike Swans » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:20 am

VicBond007 wrote:
Warlike Swans wrote:So for those of us who submitted to the "undecided" category, will we find out in advance what category our videos ended up in?

Also: Yay!


Yes, once the list is approved, I will break it up into categories (though I still won't reveal the video titles, in case the creators want to keep them secret). For the non-finalists, it doesn't matter what category you were placed in since they are played "whenever" anyways.



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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby VicBond007 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:26 pm

Warlike Swans wrote:::nudge:: :dino:

fix'd :ying:
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Scintilla » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:10 pm

I don't believe I have ever seen NINE videos in one category at Otakon before.

But if it's anything like the Action category at AnimeNEXT was this year, then it won't be possible to say any one of them did not deserve to be a finalist. :)
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby RAWdangers » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:18 pm

Drama? I was completely not expecting that O.O
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby XStylus » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:55 pm

RAWdangers wrote:Drama? I was completely not expecting that O.O


Drama is generally one of the most prolific AMV categories, second only to action. I always felt bad about the really exceptional entries that didn't make the cut into our own competition year after year.

Since Otakon's number of videos per category varies each year, it's not too surprising to see there be a heavy amount of entries in drama and action. It is kinda surprising to see it vary so much though. I think it's a positive statement on the level of quality coming from the AMV community this year. Very curious as to what the metric is for determining what gets in and what doesn't get in though.
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby kireblue » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:23 pm

I'm curious why there are only 4 videos in trailer (especially since trailers are so short).
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby VicBond007 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:27 pm

xstylus wrote:Very curious as to what the metric is for determining what gets in and what doesn't get in.

How far down the bottle the judges are when your video plays :ying:

All kidding aside, we have a semi-open screening each year (semi-open in the sense that if you try to bring 10 friends to stack the votes, you best make other plans) and this year we had 15 people watch all of the entries, even the trolls and DQs, and score each video from 1-5. Then I punch in all the numbers (nearly 2,000 unique votes), take the averages, and then start grabbing the highest rated entries. I then make personal decisions if a category is extremely stacked or barren, and that's sometimes why a video that could go in 2 or more categories, ends up where it does. Sometimes I also have to drop the lowest scoring (yet still qualifying) videos in a category if there is way too many, and drag up a few entries that just barely didn't make the cut, and place them in less populated categories. If a video scores way too low, I won't move it up into finals, no matter how badly the category needs it. Usually the "swing" videos only scored withing 0.1-0.2 points of making finals anyways, so it's not like I'm gaming the system and bumping some real bad videos for the sake of category balance.

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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Brakus » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:59 pm

Scintilla wrote:I don't believe I have ever seen NINE videos in one category at Otakon before.


VicBond told me Action was super-SUPERCRAZY competitive this year. If he'd determined the finalists by score alone (and filling up the 2-hour timeslot), there would have been FOURTEEN finalists in the Action category, among which I would have been one. Yeah, mine and four other videos unfortunately got bumped even though they would have scored high enough to be finalists. We five will have to settle for the overflow screenings this year.

But if it's anything like the Action category at AnimeNEXT was this year, then it won't be possible to say any one of them did not deserve to be a finalist. :)


Especially the EPIC MAH JONGG DEATHMATCH. It must be seen to be believed. :)
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Brakus » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm

Info about playlists deleted, per VicBond007's request.
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby XStylus » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:28 pm

VicBond007 wrote:[snip]
Then I punch in all the numbers (nearly 2,000 unique votes), take the averages, and then start grabbing the highest rated entries. I then make personal decisions if a category is extremely stacked or barren, and that's sometimes why a video that could go in 2 or more categories, ends up where it does.


Interestingly, you and I are on similar pages insofar as that methodology, right down to the hell that is the data entry of the scores. :P
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby zetaplex » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:46 pm

Hmm... I think there's an issue with making the order that predictable. Wouldn't that create a stigma for whoever is the second vid to play?

Can't be any worse than running videos that won in numerous contests a year beforehand.
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Scintilla » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:28 pm

xstylus wrote:Hmm... I think there's an issue with making the order that predictable. Wouldn't that create a stigma for whoever is the second vid to play?

Didn't stop "I Ain't Marrying No Friggin' Horse!!" from winning Best Upbeat in 2010. And besides, with a field as good as Otakon's, I consider making finals at all an honor, even if with the last one in.

(I still don't use this system myself though.)
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Warlike Swans » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:22 pm

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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby Shin-AMV » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:27 pm

Some of those categories look stacked, its going to be crazy. :bzz:
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Re: The Otakon 2012 Thread: AMV Contest Rules are Live

Postby snapxynith » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:32 pm

Oh, no, Shin. Now there's a big bullseye on me being first of the first. What is an editor to do?

Guess I have to hope my video is Di-oxygen Di-Floride in this contest.
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