AMV-France Online Contest

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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby [madaraxD] » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:09 pm

siny wrote:Me neither :/

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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby Chained(E)Studio » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:34 pm

[madaraxD] wrote:
siny wrote:Me neither :/

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Did you..


Kain-x-spirits wrote:
Don't forget to send me a PM, if you wish to participate to the vote.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby gotegenks » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:40 pm

Kain-x-spirits wrote:Oh ok. People vote for their favorite videos in each category. The video with the most vote for the public prize will be the public prize... And for the categories (ction, dance, etc.), the videos with more vote will get more chance to be the winner of the category, but the final decision for this is up to the judges.

but like with the weekly thing. say a low tier video gets 20 votes because it's in a dry week, and a mid tier video gets 12 votes because it's in a more competitive week, does the low tier video win because it got more votes?
also, are the videos being shown randomly or in order of submission? and what do votes matter if it's up to the judges at the end? not complaining just insanely curious, feel free to shut me up.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby irriadin » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:43 pm

gote wrote:
Kain-x-spirits wrote:Oh ok. People vote for their favorite videos in each category. The video with the most vote for the public prize will be the public prize... And for the categories (ction, dance, etc.), the videos with more vote will get more chance to be the winner of the category, but the final decision for this is up to the judges.

but like with the weekly thing. say a low tier video gets 20 votes because it's in a dry week, and a mid tier video gets 12 votes because it's in a more competitive week, does the low tier video win because it got more votes?
also, are the videos being shown randomly or in order of submission? and what do votes matter if it's up to the judges at the end? not complaining just insanely curious, feel free to shut me up.


I was wondering the same thing...
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby Kain-x-spirits » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:43 pm

gote wrote:but like with the weekly thing. say a low tier video gets 20 votes because it's in a dry week, and a mid tier video gets 12 votes because it's in a more competitive week, does the low tier video win because it got more votes?
also, are the videos being shown randomly or in order of submission? and what do votes matter if it's up to the judges at the end? not complaining just insanely curious, feel free to shut me up.


The judge will get a better idea of what kind of video people would classify in action or romance for example, and that's why there's these nomitations.
But yeah, the judge will decide of the final results, because it would be unfair if it's a more competitive week on a category, or something like that.
Well, it's not a good way to say that, but you make the dirty work for the judges xD They won't have to think about if a video would fit a category or not, and it undoubtedly help to make a choice.
It's like a pre-selection, if you want.

And for the public prize, yeah it can be unfair. If people agree that a video is the best this week, and that the week after the best video has even more vote, that makes this video better i think. (And that's why i let the choice of voting for 3 videos, if it's a more competitive week, at least you're not limited to one vid)

But I totally agree, I should have explain this aspect of the vote earlier. And this was what I decided, and i'm aware it was not a perfect way of doing the thing, but it was the one that let me handle the thing like i wanted, and without troubled too much the editors.

And nop, there not shown randomly, I try to respect the order of submission (except if there special demands), and i also try not to make follow 2 videos with the same anime.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby gotegenks » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:48 pm

wait so, public prize is week1 bad vid 28 > week2 good vid 14? probably exaggeration but why not vote at the end out of the videos with the most votes, like the top video of each week moves on to the final round.

but thanks for the elaboration, cool way of classifying vids imo.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby irriadin » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:38 pm

How many entries were there? I'm wondering how long we have to wait before we see all the videos...
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby gotegenks » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:03 pm

i think he said 31 or 33 right before the deadline.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby Kain-x-spirits » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:11 pm

gote wrote:wait so, public prize is week1 bad vid 28 > week2 good vid 14? probably exaggeration but why not vote at the end out of the videos with the most votes, like the top video of each week moves on to the final round.

Because I prefer take the anonymity in consideration for the vote, and I also wanted to reveal the identity of each editors when a week end ('cause i know it can be annoying to wait to publish his amvs on the net, and even more when it can be uploaded -without your name- before you upload it yourself )

And there's 39 entries.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby pacotacoshell » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 am

I think I have an inkling of who made this FLCL video. :awesome:
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby irriadin » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:07 pm

I've only been able to recognize one video's author, just because no one else makes 7 minutes+ trailers like that.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby pacotacoshell » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:30 pm

irriadin wrote:I've only been able to recognize one video's author, just because no one else makes 7 minutes+ trailers like that.

xD I think this one's a bit more obvious for me since I've watched a few of his videos before.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby snapxynith » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:29 pm

A few things have been irking me about some of the videos in the contest. Enough so that I felt the need to revise them for my personal collection versions.

So here it goes, "Go and Don’t Stop" only made me think of the few technical revisions to push the video to be cleaner and have better effects flow. I suppose it's lucky to be near the front and avoid the Madoka source fatigue going on now.

Another that caught my eye was the Be.ki video.
So I'm basically going to ramble but my core thought was, the video could be better with a different audio choice. That's it. There's more that could be done to fix it but that's a big part of the revision needed to give this video some punch. Here's a proposed revision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il8VOtsyjoE

//begin ramble
This video is serviceable but has a lot of "melody" syncing that didn't make a whole lot of sense in terms of importance. It needs to follow the core 124bpm beat structure more consistently to increase the quality of the production. Right now those melody points break the focus of the video. The shots with the guitar don't accurately sync up with the audio feed in the original. The combination of the two videos doesn't really give a synergy between themselves, I would recommend swapping out one or the other. Overall the concept really needed to be rethought from the ground up to give it more punch but why throw it away at this point. That said, it doesn't stop the video from being able to improve.

These are all beside the point of why I made this revision, they were just small things that irk me personally. Since there is enough on beat syncing to this video I wanted to reinforce the plot's concept with a better atmosphere audio, hopefully getting to see what the work could have been. The current video in my eyes shows a musician that gets inspired by his favorite band about the story of a haunting, exorcism, and eventual escape of one of the haunting demons. We see his thought process of the story in the video. Initially I thought I would want more of a guitar focus for the guitar syncs. I couldn't find anything that would work without re-positioning the guitar sync points in the video. I'm not really for that in a reflective review, so I shifted to an audio that would match the story I saw.

I did have to squeeze/stretch the audio to match the bpm but that's rather trivial. I matched one of the initial downbeat sync points at the beginning and the rest, it just shows where the core beat sync hits the original are. I think there are enough.

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The next video is Megatari. This video made me go through a couple moments but it started out simple, rather slowly paced but that was in line with the audio. I don't feel that the begining's pacing was good but I also can't say I would have edited those sections different except for our school supply girl's foot stomp, the video pace died right there for the clip. It does manage to pick itself up and then ramps the video to 11 somewhere around 53s in.

I was happy. flow happened, action happened. My eyes were being told where to go and what to watch, this was magical. Sure it was slow before but that was all forgiven. This was that rare magic in an upbeat/action. What's more it was dub-steppy, I've really wanted to see a good dub step amv for some time now. It was like being answered for once in a long time without even asking

Then 1m56s happened. I became worried. "no. NO. NO! the pacing of the song dropped. NO!" I know the song must pick up, it can't let the video die like this. "Don't let the ball drop, it was flying it was playful, DON'T let this fall apart!" As I yelled at my screen like an idiot and pounded my desk the video fell apart before my eyes. From a technical standpoint, the video kept listening to the audio to the letter. This was its downfall. I had to step away from my desk, breathe, and remember the video doesn't change just because I want it to be different.

Well, I guess I just meddle too much and I want this video to be better. So, if nothing more than for myself I made a quick revision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAnhWgtwOjY

Since I personally found the beginning and the ending sections of the original video killed the overall pacing of a spectacular action video. I decided that the video needed to be cut down to hold the strong points of its editing. Now technically there should be a short section before the revised beginning but that would require an audio re-edit to correctly give the pacing conversion a shot.

It would probably intensify the video by relative pacing but that's just a potential aesthetic change. I feel that just the reduction is enough to get the point across.

I do worry that posting these thoughts may be rude but it feels enough like a moral grey area enough so that the positives may outweigh the negatives. Here's hoping.
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby TritioAFB » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:11 pm

Interesting conversation you got here.

But while it's true that we still have to wait for the remaining videos, I can perfectly recognize the styles of everyone even when the videos are currently anonymous. Surprised some entries are missing still (If it's true that everybody made it to the deadline)
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Re: AMV-France Online Contest

Postby Kain-x-spirits » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:29 pm

It's intersting to see that you people can recognize the style of certain editors. I wasn't be able to recognize who did what myself yet, except for storming flames :P

snapxynith wrote:The current video in my eyes shows a musician that gets inspired by his favorite band about the story of a haunting, exorcism, and eventual escape of one of the haunting demons

Yeah, that's also what i understood. I'm not convinced by your revision though. To me, the actual music fit pretty well his concept, but the technical issues, and the lack of punch makes this video barely watchable at some point, but i think we can still find the synergy between the two animes. Well, with much more work this concept could have been awesome.
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